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re: Saban winning with Shula's Players
Posted on 9/3/09 at 8:30 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 9/3/09 at 8:30 am to Prominentwon
Saban didn't coach LSU players to the 2007 BCS National Championship, and Shula didn't coach Alabama to an undefeated regular season last year...
Posted on 9/3/09 at 8:31 am to Peachtree Tiger
I think this might be a good point concerning the past few years if the players were winning in spite of their coach. It's pretty clear that Shula couldn't win with Shula's players. The fact that Saban is winning with "some" Shula players is a testament to Saban's coaching ability. Some teams are left with players that are so talented that they can win in spite of bad coaching. There is a big difference.
This post was edited on 9/3/09 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/3/09 at 8:34 am to Prominentwon
Prom, you know what a shite-starter Peachtree is.
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:20 am to tuck
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tuck
i've been trying to hammer this point home for a while now. it seems people have selective listening abilities. imagine that. spin it spin it spin it. "our team is better than yours because blah blah blah..."
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:22 am to BamaInHsv
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Prom, you know what a shite-starter Peachtree is.
Meh. IMO, no one tops Bama flamers. At least when he's flaming, he probably wouldn't believe all the shite he talks as absolute fact.
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:51 am to Peachtree Tiger
uh oh, don't bring up coaching or you'll get some great nuggets of wisdom from the bammers.
They hang their hats on Sabans performance at LSU even though Miles has done better. This is because Saban is God and Miles is a doofus. YET, they demean Miles' performance at Okie Lite BECAUSE Gundy has done better on the premise that Miles is stilla doofus and can't coach.
Make sense? NO. Because that's Bammer logic
They hang their hats on Sabans performance at LSU even though Miles has done better. This is because Saban is God and Miles is a doofus. YET, they demean Miles' performance at Okie Lite BECAUSE Gundy has done better on the premise that Miles is stilla doofus and can't coach.
Make sense? NO. Because that's Bammer logic
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:59 am to ibldprplgld
imo....saban brings a certain arrogance with him wherever he goes with the exception of the dolphins because they are all professionals ...it could be directly attributed to his napoleonic syndrome..however i think it breeds confidence in the players on his team. they actually buy into the hype that is nick saban. not taking anything away from his coaching ability but i think there is alot to be said for having the mindset that YOU are the best and can win on any sat. again this is just my opinion
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:59 am to ibldprplgld
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ibldprplgld and all others that share your opinion
y'all have serious, serious issues.
but you are right about one thing. i do think Miles is a "doofus." i think he fits the LSU mold PERFECTLY. wearing that douchebag looking hat.. can't coach X's and O's very well... drops the F'bomb at public events... yeah, y'all can keep that guy.
*edit* i mean does all of your dislike towards Saban... attention you give Saban... hate towards Alabama etc... does it all come from years of Alabama whipping y'alls asses??? I DON'T GET the animosity. but it sure pisses me off enough to talk like this post.
This post was edited on 9/3/09 at 10:02 am
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:02 am to m2pro
sorry, had to get that off my chest.
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:02 am to m2pro
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ibldprplgld and all others that share your opinion
I don't quite get how the bullshite YOUR fans spew has suddenly become LSU fans' opinions.
I'm glad you see Bama fans' logic as the bullshite it is
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:08 am to m2pro
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but you are right about one thing. i do think Miles is a "doofus." i think he fits the LSU mold PERFECTLY. wearing that douchebag looking hat.. can't coach X's and O's very well... drops the F'bomb at public events... yeah, y'all can keep that guy.
If he's not very good with the X's and O's, how come all of our trick plays seem to work to perfection, and ballsy calls seemingly work out?
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imo....saban brings a certain arrogance with him wherever he goes with the exception of the dolphins because they are all professionals ...it could be directly attributed to his napoleonic syndrome..however i think it
breeds confidence in the players on his team. they actually buy into the hype that is nick saban. not taking anything away from his coaching ability but i think there is alot to be said for having the mindset that YOU are the best and can win on any sat. again this is just my opinion
Yeah, it breeds confidence for a while, and they will play above their ability for a game or two, but he always runs the risk of dropping a few games by keeping the score close and trying to grind it out instead of going for the jugular. It didn't happen last year because their running game was so dominant, but you can't always count on that every year.
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:13 am to m2pro
quote:Go read the other thread (the one where the idiot compared Bama to the Pats and the Bulls). It's summed up nicely over and over again in there.
i mean does all of your dislike towards Saban... attention you give Saban... hate towards Alabama etc... does it all come from years of Alabama whipping y'alls asses??? I DON'T GET the animosity.
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:16 am to TigerInBamaLand
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Go read the other thread (the one where the idiot compared Bama to the Pats and the Bulls). It's summed up nicely over and over again in there.
+1000000
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:18 am to Peachtree Tiger
so saban has 2 crystal balls to miles 0?
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:39 am to m2pro
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y'all have serious, serious issues.
but you are right about one thing. i do think Miles is a "doofus." i think he fits the LSU mold PERFECTLY. wearing that douchebag looking hat.. can't coach X's and O's very well... drops the F'bomb at public events... yeah, y'all can keep that guy.
*edit* i mean does all of your dislike towards Saban... attention you give Saban... hate towards Alabama etc... does it all come from years of Alabama whipping y'alls asses??? I DON'T GET the animosity. but it sure pisses me off enough to talk like this
another Finebaum lemming
there's the Bama fan I know and loathe. thanks for being stereotypical
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:40 am to m2pro
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i've been trying to hammer this point home for a while now. it seems people have selective listening abilities. imagine that. spin it spin it spin it. "our team is better than yours because blah blah blah..."
there isn't a bigger fanbase with worse selective memory than Bama fans
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:58 am to The Ramp
So, if Saban is winning with Shula's players (something Shula never did), imagine what he will do with his players and all these top 5 recruiting classes. Scary isn't it?
Posted on 9/3/09 at 11:12 am to Peachtree Tiger
I'm going to post this for the 984th time, which is 983 times more than I thought it would need to be posted.
LSU: Saban's players that he left for Miles were GREAT. There was a ton of talent that was well coached and prepared by great coaching staffs.
Bama: Shula's players were mediocre talent wise, were lost through attrition through his tenure, and were not very well coached or prepared.
Bama fans that say Les won with Saban's players are dumb, because most of those guys were young players when Saban was here. However, LSU fans that try to be clever by turning this around on Saban and Bama fans are IDIOTS, because that is essentially a huge compliment to Saban considering the condition that Alabama was in compared to LSU.
LSU: Saban's players that he left for Miles were GREAT. There was a ton of talent that was well coached and prepared by great coaching staffs.
Bama: Shula's players were mediocre talent wise, were lost through attrition through his tenure, and were not very well coached or prepared.
Bama fans that say Les won with Saban's players are dumb, because most of those guys were young players when Saban was here. However, LSU fans that try to be clever by turning this around on Saban and Bama fans are IDIOTS, because that is essentially a huge compliment to Saban considering the condition that Alabama was in compared to LSU.
Posted on 9/3/09 at 11:15 am to m2pro
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but you are right about one thing. i do think Miles is a "doofus." i think he fits the LSU mold PERFECTLY. wearing that douchebag looking hat.. can't coach X's and O's very well... drops the F'bomb at public events... yeah, y'all can keep that guy.
*edit* i mean does all of your dislike towards Saban... attention you give Saban... hate towards Alabama etc... does it all come from years of Alabama whipping y'alls asses??? I DON'T GET the animosity. but it sure pisses me off enough to talk like this post.
this post belongs in the "WHY EVERYONE HATES BAMA" thread.
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