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re: Saban: The selection committee shouldn't reward teams that play weaker schedules
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:55 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:55 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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LSU hadn't already lost to OSU AT HOME is my point. If LSU had lost out after beating UA then I would agree that y'all should have gone, but you had your shot at LSU and blew it, then got a redo. It's not like LSU got a rematch with OSU in 07.
Rematches happen all of the time in sports.
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:55 am to labamafan
SOS numbers by computers don't say everything. Bama had a better SOS than LSU entering the game this past year. We had played UF, USC, and A&M. Y'all had played Michigan. OSU played more good teams than Bama. Y'all beat ONE SEC team with a winning conference record in the regular season.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 1:57 am to Tiger Live2
I never said anyone was more.deserving. the conversation was about coaches lobbying for their teams. The 2011 and 2007 seasons are nothing alike other than the argument that GA deserved to go because they were ranked higher at the time of the sec champ game and were jumped when they remain we neutral which I think blind y'all.to.the circumstances of 2011, but these seasons are not in a vacuum and are not the same. Each season dictates its own set of circumstance s.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:03 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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This year it would have been ND, UA, UF and Oregon...an Indie, 2 divisional runnerups, and 1 CC. There's going to be some butthurt for sure with selection committee. Who would they have chosen? #1 ND, #2 UA, #5 KSU and #6 Stanford?
Like I said, it's not perfect, but it's better than the bullshite we're gonna have to deal with with this committee BS. Are they going to define the rules on how they pick them or are they just gonna say they picked the "most deserving" or "team with the best resume" or " playing the best football right now team" It's too subjective and all we are going to see is more drama and less football.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:10 am to Tiger Live2
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SOS numbers by computers don't say everything.
Correct which is why I use end of season totals because sos changes as the season goes. Our schedule is typically back end loaded. Well that plus its easier to Google end of season sos.
I doubt you and I ever agree on 2011 because in my.mind you had two teams with all things equal and Bama finishing g the season with a higher sos and a loss that was not nearly as bad as OK St. Again the BCS was set up to pit the two best teams and by your own admission that happened. Deserving is far too subjective and where as polls are as well at least there is a ton of subjective opinions from many different perspectives that tend to lead us toward a relatively accurate poll. This new deal with few brains determining the outcome will.effect this game in a detrimental way a it opens us up to allegations of corruption, agendas and bias. Maybe you view 2011 Bama as getting some bias but that poll was determined by input from coaches and press. ALABAMA does not have the powder.to influence that many different perspectives no matter how much you may believe that. Considering all of those differing opinions and Alabama's body of work, their is no doubt in my mind that Alabama earned its way into the title game.Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:16 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Like I said, it's not perfect, but it's better than the bull shite we're gonna have to deal with with this committee BS. Are they going to define the rules on how they pick them or are they just gonna say they picked the "most deserving" or "team with the best resume" or " playing the best football right now team" It's too subjective and all we are going to see is more drama and less football.
While we are talking about fair, conf champions do not always lend to fairness either. An that works both ways if the four best teams with some.reasonable security aren't playing it goes.back to being a MNC and what happens in years where conferences lose team's to other conf and can't play a conf champ game? What if it is say a USC or OH St or FLa St who have the talent to compete but aren't eligible because They couldn't have a conf champ game. They need to leave the polls as is.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:33 am to labamafan
I also said in this thread that if you don't make CC a requirement, just use the BCS. I also said the way they have it set up will be worse than the BCS.
I did say Saban basically did a 180 from what he said less than 2 years ago. Of course he will advocate his team. That is his job
I did say Saban basically did a 180 from what he said less than 2 years ago. Of course he will advocate his team. That is his job
Posted on 4/25/13 at 2:42 am to Tiger Live2
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did say Saban basically did a 180 from what he said less than 2 years ago. Of course he will advocate his team. That is his job
Of course he should as should every coach... if he wants to keep.his job. Then we agree on this playoff deal because a few people.Will lead to rampant allegation of favoritism, agendas, bias and corruption. I think cfb ha gotten too big for its britches. Anyone who views this as student athletes and not an NFL type business is kidding themselves. I am ready to go back to the old twelve team conferences. This is getting too big to handle and we are headed for troubling times.in cfb.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 3:25 am to labamafan
Yea, I wish we all 12 teams. I think the Shelties were a great addition, but I prefer 12 teams. I like playing UF every year(even though it isn't a rival). With 12 teams we can play them along AU, BAMA, Ole Miss, and still play the rest of the East semi-regularly. Look back to what type of playoff I would like in this thread. Even with bigger conferences, I think that would cure a lot of problems. I also would like a 10 game conference schedule. Do a 6-1-3 rotation.
As is I am in favor of getting rid of permanent opponents, but I don't want to get rid of UF.
As is I am in favor of getting rid of permanent opponents, but I don't want to get rid of UF.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:07 am to Bench McElroy
“I don’t think there’s enough weight put on the quality of your schedule and the opponents that you play, which in our league is very, very important, because we had six teams in the top 10 last year at the end of the season. We play each other, and that has a huge impact on the quality of team you have, regardless of how many games you lose. There are things like that that I think we can do better.”
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Yeah, beecause playing Mizzou, Tennessee, Kentucky
every year sure is a lot harder than Georgia, Florida and USCe
Plus the scintillating non conference schedule they play every year - South Central Rhode Island Teacher's College, Northwestern Vermont A&M,
Montana Wesleyan, Slippery Rock....
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Yeah, beecause playing Mizzou, Tennessee, Kentucky
every year sure is a lot harder than Georgia, Florida and USCe
Plus the scintillating non conference schedule they play every year - South Central Rhode Island Teacher's College, Northwestern Vermont A&M,
Montana Wesleyan, Slippery Rock....
Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:38 am to Bench McElroy
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Saban
talks 27 ways out of his mouth
his opinion changes with the wind
Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:44 am to MetryTyger
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Yeah, beecause playing Mizzou, Tennessee, Kentucky
every year sure is a lot harder than Georgia, Florida and USCe
Plus the scintillating non conference schedule they play every year - South Central Rhode Island Teacher's College, Northwestern Vermont A&M,
Montana Wesleyan, Slippery Rock....
Yeah because like that's the three teams we play like every year and like LSU plays all three of those teams like every year.
but seriously outside how long are you gonna ride the coattails of your ooc from 2011. Exaggerate much, you sound like my wife 
Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:56 am to labamafan
As long as we have conference championship games, you shouldn't have to win your conference to have a shot at the NC.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:02 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:03 am to pvilleguru
So a NATIONAL CHAMPION doesn't have to be a Conference Champion?
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:04 am to pvilleguru
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As long as we have conference championship games, you shouldn't have to win your conference to have a shot at the NC.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:10 am to labamafan
Will you guys just admit that you got special treatment last season and this season with these " bridge schedules".
It's the SEC Rant, it's not like anything we say matters anyway. I don't understand why y'all keep make excuses for it. Just own it man.
It's the SEC Rant, it's not like anything we say matters anyway. I don't understand why y'all keep make excuses for it. Just own it man.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:33 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Back to the main point of the OP's thread: Sports Illustrated ran a mock playoff scenerio back in Jan. One of the A.D.'s involved said that picking #1 & 2 were pretty easy. They stood out from all the rest. But he said that when you get to #3-4-5-6, it gets a lot harder & any team in those numbers will probably have a justified bitch. That's why who is on the selection committee will be the most important decision of all. And I cann't stand Saban as a person, but he is for the league having a 9 game schedule, so I'll back him on that.
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:37 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Will you guys just admit that you got special treatment last season and this season with these " bridge schedules". It's the SEC Rant, it's not like anything we say matters anyway. I don't understand why y'all keep make excuses for it. Just own it man.
Prior to expansion, Bama's schedule looked like:
'12 - Tennessee, UGA, Vandy
'13 - Tennessee, UGA, UK
Instead, we played:
'12 - Tennessee, A&M, Mizzou
'13 - Tennessee, A&M, UK
Not a big difference in terms of difficulty
Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:45 am to sarc
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Prior to expansion, Bama's schedule looked like:
'12 - Tennessee, UGA, Vandy
'13 - Tennessee, UGA, UK
Instead, we played:
'12 - Tennessee, A&M, Mizzou
'13 - Tennessee, A&M, UK
Not a big difference in terms of difficulty
Dude, A&M is in you're division. You missed UGA and kept the scrubs. Other teams are picking up your slack.
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