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re: Saban crying about competitive disadvantage
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:11 pm to ibldprplgld
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:11 pm to ibldprplgld
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He wants to be the only one to have a competitive disadvantage.
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I think you mean advantage. Saban having a competitive advantage [talent wise] is the only way he's been able to do what he's done at Bama.
Les has had just as much of an advantage [talent wise] as Nick - why the hell has LSU's SEC record progressively gotten worse since 2011?
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Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:12 pm to Buckeye06
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A competitive disadvantage would be something that makes Alabama, and the SEC by extension, less competitive on the football field than teams from other conferences.
I think the only way something can be a "competitive disadvantage" is if the playing field is level today, and with this change it is no longer equal. Just my opinion
Why can't you have multiple competitive advantages and disadvantages in play at the same time? And as such, the results of your performance would only reflect the sum of these advantages and disadvantages...so it would be perfectly reasonable to believe that a team had a competitive advantage in proximity to recruits while having a competitive disadvantage in scheduling.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:12 pm to Crimson Legend
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But there are not more people in the South, and there are not more athletes in the South. There are more premier football players in the South because of the (arguably warped) emphasis we place on football.
The South is not at an overall advantage, we are at an advantage in this sport because we place an emphasis on this sport. If the South was overflowing with athletes in general, the SEC would be far more competitive in basketball.
Since this is an article about Saban when I say "more good athletes" i meant more good athletes Saban would want ie: football prospects.
As an OSU fan of course I wouldn't want to give up those advantages, but I also wouldn't say it's a competitive disadvantage to OSU if other teams have a shot
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:15 pm to Buckeye06
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South with the most top 300
There are more premier football players in the south. 112 NOT including Texas, which is almost triple the # in the midwest. It is much easier for a kid to drive 4 hours than it is for a kid to afford flying 2 hours.
I like how you are using conferences to make your argument, must be a reason you chose that route.
Care to post the talent Ohio produces in comparison to Minnesota or Iowa, how about Missouri, TN, and SC?
Your school as more advantages than almost all CFB teams, yet still not satisfied.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:16 pm to Buckeye06
My point is that there are all sorts of advantages and disadvantages between teams. In some cases this competitive advantage should be addressed - like when one team is paying recruits. In other cases, it may be a competitive advantage but it is the result of factors that cannot and should not be addressed - like one region of the country placing an emphasis on one sport over another.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:17 pm to Buckeye06
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I think the only way something can be a "competitive disadvantage" is if the playing field is level today, and with this change it is no longer equal.
silly
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:19 pm to Patton
So Saban is going to be worried about a camp this off-season that he has no control over instead of trying to shut down hurry up no huddle offenses?
Or is he going to try and do both?
The dude is going to be busy when he retires trying to shut all of these things down.
Or is he going to try and do both?
The dude is going to be busy when he retires trying to shut all of these things down.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:20 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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nebraskafaninwi
Appreciate your interest in our program, especially since you were once one of the great names in college football and you haven't had a team worth watching since retiring the option.
Good luck, I genuinely like Nebraska (albeit much more before you joined the Big Ten.)
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:21 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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he dude is going to be busy when he retires
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:33 pm to nebraskafaninwi
quote:Why do you care what Saban is doing?
So Saban is going to be worried about a camp this off-season that he has no control over instead of trying to shut down hurry up no huddle offenses? Or is he going to try and do both? The dude is going to be busy when he retires trying to shut all of these things down.
Aren't you still busy heading up the SEC poaching project to get Mizzou into the B1G?
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:34 pm to bona fide
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I like how you are using conferences to make your argument, must be a reason you chose that route.
Umm I used this argument because Saban said the SEC needs to address this "competitive disadvantage."
OSU has huge competitive advantages. However, if an SEC team camped in Ohio I would not call it a competitive disadvantage. I would call it that SEC team taking away some of OSU's competitive advantage. They aren't even close to the same thing.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:42 pm to Buckeye06
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OSU has huge competitive advantages. However, if an SEC team camped in Ohio I would not call it a competitive disadvantage. I would call it that SEC team taking away some of OSU's competitive advantage. They aren't even close to the same thing.
Bama,AU,and UF camping in Ohio while OSU is not allowed to do the same in AL and FL, that is a competitive disadvantage for OSU.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:49 pm to tigerskin
I'm with Saban on this actually.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:55 pm to bona fide
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Your school as more advantages than almost all CFB teams, yet still not satisfied.
What part of it's Michigan and Penn State that are doing this don't you understand? Meyer is on record saying he hates those camps and won't go to or participate in them.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 2:56 pm to piggilicious
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yeah, very fitting considering i never ever ever ever wanted him at my school. anyway, i see the word loophole and automatically thought of auburn (ex. oh i didn't know daddy was trying to sell me) and gus- just seems to naturally go together the shady/trashy yet innocent act.
You're so rustled... Gus isn't coming back, get over it.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:00 pm to nebraskafaninwi
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So Saban is going to be worried about a camp this off-season that he has no control over instead of trying to shut down hurry up no huddle offenses?
Or is he going to try and do both?
The dude is going to be busy when he retires trying to shut all of these things down.
Well you escalated that. He was asked the question FWIW at a speaking engagement in Huntsville. He gets asked a lot of stupid questions during his spring speaking tour that people latch onto for whatever reason.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:14 pm to tigerskin
satellite camps are bullshite, Saban is right in this instance.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:16 pm to VABuckeye
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What part of it's Michigan and Penn State that are doing this don't you understand?
Quote was in response to the location of top recruits, not OP topic.
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Meyer is on record saying
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:17 pm to RT1941
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Les has had just as much of an advantage [talent wise] as Nick - why the hell has LSU's SEC record progressively gotten worse since 2011?
John Chavis getting lazier each year.
Posted on 4/22/15 at 3:22 pm to bona fide
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Quote was in response to the location of top recruits
No. You responded to a Buckeye saying his school already has advantages implying that this would be yet another advantage for his school.
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Bama,AU,and UF camping in Ohio while OSU is not allowed to do the same in AL and FL, that is a competitive disadvantage for OSU.
Again implying that Ohio State is doing something they aren't.
The FACT is that Ohio State doesn't need to come to those states for camps because they recruit the south and Texas pretty goddamned well without doing so.
This post was edited on 4/22/15 at 3:25 pm
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