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re: Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:20 am to BulldogXero
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:20 am to BulldogXero
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That's not the final variant of the flag
Louisiana was long out of the fight by the time the Blood-Stained Banner came about. Baton Rouge fell on May 9th, 1862 - New Orleans on April 26, 1862. At that time the Stars and Bars were still being used by the CSA.
It's a little known fact, but the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply to many slaves in Louisiana which was under Union occupation a the time - including New Orleans.
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because people are too dumb to know its a confederate flag
The Stars and Bars was never used to terrorize people, therefore people don't find it terrifying.
Go figure.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:20 am to WildTchoupitoulas
I think that is the first Confederate Flag, it looks like it has seven stars, before adding other southern states that seceded. Somewhere out there is a pretty fascinating history of why they ditched that flag. It looked to much like the Stars and Stripes on the battlefield and confused soldiers looking for their lines. The next one was mostly white, but that looked too much like the white flag of surrender.
Again, the South Carolina flag has nothing to do with that. It was not put up in 1883, it was put up in 1962. Studying the history of something is fine, but you have to place it into proper context. South Carolinians may not want to admit it, but they put that flag up to protest the Civil Rights Movement. Why do you think the battle flag was chosen?
Again, the South Carolina flag has nothing to do with that. It was not put up in 1883, it was put up in 1962. Studying the history of something is fine, but you have to place it into proper context. South Carolinians may not want to admit it, but they put that flag up to protest the Civil Rights Movement. Why do you think the battle flag was chosen?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:23 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Here you are correcting the OP on page 1:
I wasn't trying to correct the OP I was referencing the many people on TV, news etc who are getting it wrong. That was what my banter was about.
But I understand your point and will drop the specifics.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:24 am to higgs_boson
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but you have to place it into proper context.
No, motherfricker, I don't have to do shite.
That's what a lot of you political correctness people don't seem to understand.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:29 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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That's not the final variant of the flag
Louisiana was long out of the fight by the time the Blood-Stained Banner came about. Baton Rouge fell on May 9th, 1862 - New Orleans on April 26, 1862. At that time the Stars and Bars were still being used by the CSA.
It's a little known fact, but the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply to many slaves in Louisiana which was under Union occupation a the time - including New Orleans.
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because people are too dumb to know its a confederate flag
The Stars and Bars was never used to terrorize people, therefore people don't find it terrifying.
Go figure.
Bingo!
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:31 am to CrimsonBoz
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But I understand your point and will drop the specifics.
I'm not really all that serious about it, but I do get a kick out of it.
Hey, I'm aware of my great-great-grandfather's fighting with the 7th Louisiana Cavalry, and his taking part in supporting actions of Gen. Mouton's troops at Mansfield (the last major Confederate victory), and even saw his sword, uniform and flag hanging on the wall of his daughter's house when I was a child. But while I appreciate it, I don't get all bent out of shape when people want that flag taken down. It doesn't represent much of my heritage as he only fought under it for a few years out of the hundreds that my family has been o this continent.
I'm more proud of his great-grandfather's actions under Joseph Broussard in the French-Indian War.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:31 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, motherfricker, I don't have to do shite.
That is your right. However, it i my right to call you a idiotic blowhard who talks big behind a keyboard who would piss his pants trying to spout his racist ideology on any street where he might see a black guy.
How is that for political correctness, you inbred snaggle toothed sister humper? :)
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:41 am to higgs_boson
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That is your right. However, it i my right to call you a idiotic blowhard who talks big behind a keyboard who would piss his pants trying to spout his racist ideology on any street where he might see a black guy. How is that for political correctness, you inbred snaggle toothed sister humper? :)
Well, that's all well and good, except I'm not really spouting anything except don't tell me what to say and what not to say.
I don't think I've said much at all on the topic of racism.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:45 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Was trying to be offensive and non-pc.
I thought I was pretty much spot on.
I thought I was pretty much spot on.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 12:05 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm not really all that serious about it, but I do get a kick out of it.
Hey, I'm aware of my great-great-grandfather's fighting with the 7th Louisiana Cavalry, and his taking part in supporting actions of Gen. Mouton's troops at Mansfield (the last major Confederate victory), and even saw his sword, uniform and flag hanging on the wall of his daughter's house when I was a child. But while I appreciate it, I don't get all bent out of shape when people want that flag taken down. It doesn't represent much of my heritage as he only fought under it for a few years out of the hundreds that my family has been o this continent.
I'm more proud of his great-grandfather's actions under Joseph Broussard in the French-Indian War.
That is outstanding that you have followed it through.
My lineage is with CPT James Kieth Boswell, Engineer Aide to Stonewall Jackson and killed in the same volley at Chancellorsville that would later kill Jackson. His uniform and Engineering Booklet (which has a bullet hole through it) hang in VMI to this day.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 12:09 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
quote:The flag has been removed from the State capital building here in Montgomery. Governor Bentley did so quietly and without making a spectacal or any fanfare.
Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag by Chazzy McRamzee
So what exactly do you expect "the most powerful person in Alabama" to "step up to the plate" about?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 12:17 pm to lefty08
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You realize the stars and stripes are offensive to some people as well right? Every symbol in today's world is offensive to someone.
I find the gay flag offensive. 1.2 million Americans have HIV, with 50k added each year. 660,000 people have died from AIDS, more than in the Civil war. Even with those facts, they proudly wave that banner of death. Offensive.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 12:26 pm to CrimsonBoz
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That is outstanding that you have followed it through.
My lineage is with CPT James Kieth Boswell, Engineer Aide to Stonewall Jackson and killed in the same volley at Chancellorsville that would later kill Jackson. His uniform and Engineering Booklet (which has a bullet hole through it) hang in VMI to this day.
I wonder about some of these people coming on my TV lecturing me about their heritage. Maybe their ancestor simply cut and run when the smoke got thick enough, or maybe all their ancestors were still in Ireland digging up rotten potatoes during the War. Often they don't seem like the types to have done much research on the matter. They more often just seem like political pawns.
I visited VMI/Washington and Lee when I was a kid. It was an awesome experience.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:21 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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Everyone around SEC country and the nation knows that a larger than normal percentage of their fanbase have these flags hanging somewhere in their house or on their car tag. I personally believe Saban could help convict some of these people with his words alone.
When it has nothing to do with his own personal property or domain, Nick Saban is probably has enough sense to mind his own business and not try to dictate to people what or where they hang anything.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:25 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
I don't give a shite about the rebel flag but an LSU man should direct his post at the Les Miles, not Saban.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:30 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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Thoughts?
Yes, he is our football coach. If he wants to speak on the flag, fine. If not, fine. Just win football games this fall. Cool?
Not speaking about it has been just fine.
You mind was really saying " Hey, if Saban gets invlolved in a political issue and says one way or another, one group will get mad and feel alienated and there will be some criticism amoung Bama fans of Saban, he may lose some recruits, blah blah and one side of the fence of the people of the U.S. will turn on him also and this will become a national story no matter which direction he goes and this horrible pain we deal with from him not being our coach any more might be a little more tolerable"
Was I pretty close?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:38 pm to Roses of Crimson
I'm still waiting. Is Saban going to do something about this or not?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:40 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
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. I personally believe Saban could help convict some of these people with his words alone.
I personally believe you suck at the English language. In fact I'm "convicted" of it
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:43 pm to ehole
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I personally believe you suck at the English language.
I know you wanted him to say "convince", but this is an accepted normative substitution in creative writing. In other words, "convict" isn't technically wrong the way he used it.
If you still have doubts, ring up Finebaum. He does a lot of creative writing.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 7/1/15 at 2:53 pm to Chazzy McRamzee
OP not to worry, as Saban's pimp Finebaum has already come out & spoken against it for him, Finebaum being his spokesman and all. That Finebaum is a liberal New York Jewish person who admitted on his show that he cried as a young teen when reading MLK's I Had A Dream Speech does not make him biased in any way, of course.
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