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Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag
Posted on 7/1/15 at 5:05 am
Posted on 7/1/15 at 5:05 am
Everyone around SEC country and the nation knows that a larger than normal percentage of their fanbase have these flags hanging somewhere in their house or on their car tag. I personally believe Saban could help convict some of these people with his words alone.
He is the most powerful person in the state of Alabama. I think right now would be a good time for him to step up to the plate. He's been in so many African American homes. He knows their dislike for the flag.
Thoughts?
He is the most powerful person in the state of Alabama. I think right now would be a good time for him to step up to the plate. He's been in so many African American homes. He knows their dislike for the flag.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 5:32 am to Chazzy McRamzee
He knows they're dislike for the flag.
If you're going to come here and spew some sort of moral or intellectual superiority over the state of Alabama, son, at least have your grammatical ducks in a row.
(And you know you just set yourself up to be bombarded by image after image of the purple & gold Confederate flag at LSU games/tailgates, right?)
If you're going to come here and spew some sort of moral or intellectual superiority over the state of Alabama, son, at least have your grammatical ducks in a row.
(And you know you just set yourself up to be bombarded by image after image of the purple & gold Confederate flag at LSU games/tailgates, right?)
Posted on 7/1/15 at 5:41 am to SoFla Tideroller
Mississippi is probably the only state that does not have moral or intellectual superiority over the state of Alabama. So everyone but Mississippi can talk about Alabama in this thread. And I think Hugh Freeze needs to do it. More Rebel flags in Miss than Alabama. Thank God for Mississippi and Alabama. 
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 5:42 am
Posted on 7/1/15 at 6:44 am to genuineLSUtiger
First let's clear this up OP, I am a historian, so let me set the record straight.
The confederate flag is not the thing on top of the Dukes of Hazzard car, it's not the thing on the back of some dudes truck. That is the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and later Tennessee. Typically people misidentify and fly the Battle Flag of Tennessee ( it is longer and more flag like).
The CSA (Confederate States of America), in 1861 used the Stars and Bars Flag, then in 1863 the Stainless Banner, then in 1865 the Bloodstained Banner. (Look them up if you don't know)
And I quote "The battle flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy, and was never officially used by Confederate veterans' groups. The flag probably would have been relegated to Civil War museums if it had not been resurrected by the resurgent KKK and used by Southern Dixiecrats during the 1948 presidential election" Dr. William Donald, University of Florida, EXPERT on Confederate symbols.
Please educate yourself and understand what the Confederate flag IS and what it ISN'T.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 6:53 am to Chazzy McRamzee
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Thoughts?
You miss coach Saban.
Also, your team sucks.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 6:57 am to Chazzy McRamzee
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Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag
Why? Is there one at the SEC or NCAA office?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 6:59 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Nick Saban is a brilliant man and a revolutionary. He knows he can't use up his political capital on the flag issue if he's going to win on his first goal - transgender equality. He will let the rest of us fight the battle on the flag while he quietly invites people to speak to the team like Caitlyn Jenner, RuPaul, and Madeline Albright (who hasn't yet realized she's transgender and is running out of time).
The ultimate goal will make Prince his offensive coordinator and assistant head coach, and just confuse the hell out of all of us.
The ultimate goal will make Prince his offensive coordinator and assistant head coach, and just confuse the hell out of all of us.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:00 am to Chazzy McRamzee
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Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag
Right now would be a good time for politically correct punks like you to shut the hell up about other people's heritage and mind your own business.
Thoughts?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:00 am to CockInYourEar
That would be the rebel flag.....
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:01 am to Chazzy McRamzee
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Everyone around SEC country and the nation knows that a larger than normal percentage of their fanbase have these flags hanging somewhere in their house or on their car tag.
No, I don't know that. I'm 43 and have never seen that flag hanging in anyone's house I've been in. I can't say the same for vehicles but it's been a good while since I've seen one on there too.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:02 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Is it that black Americans are offended by the flag or liberal white Americans? Can we have the numbers please?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:17 am to genuineLSUtiger
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intellectual superiority over the state of Alabama
Shows how much you know, Huntsville is one of the smartest cities in the world.
Huntsville
Somewhere in Louisiana
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:24 am to CrimsonBoz
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First let's clear this up OP, I am a historian, so let me set the record straight.
When did various Southern states start flying that flag over their capitals?
What events drove the dramatic rise of its popularity in the 20th century?
Getting the technical name of it correct is a distraction from what it stands for. Claim what you want, but the modern use of that flag now was nothing but a big f%#} you to the Civil Rights movement.
There are a lot of people innocently using it as a symbol of their Southern pride, but its popularity is rooted in bigotry.
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:39 am to lefty08
quote:As a former liberal, I can assure you that you've hit the nail on the head.
Is it that black Americans are offended by the flag or liberal white Americans? Can we have the numbers please?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:40 am to TriumphTiger
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When did various Southern states start flying that flag over their capitals?
What events drove the dramatic rise of its popularity in the 20th century?
Getting the technical name of it correct is a distraction from what it stands for. Claim what you want, but the modern use of that flag now was nothing but a big f%#} you to the Civil Rights movement.
There are a lot of people innocently using it as a symbol of their Southern pride, but its popularity is rooted in bigotry.
None of that matters when people do not know the history of the flag or even which one they are talking about. It's asinine to claim a State is flying the Confederate flag when they aren't. If you have an issue with historical markers flying the battle flag of men who died under it, that is your business. My opinion and a that of a great many others in the historical community is just move the battle flags to museums or national monuments where appropriate. As to the states who sorta kinda have parts and pieces of the CSA flag in the state flag. That is complete hog wash and people need to stop trying to bury history.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:46 am to CrimsonBoz
Here's a good summation: This is Not the Confederate Flag
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:48 am to TriumphTiger
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a lot of people innocently using it as a symbol of their Southern pride
Everybody that flies it over the age of 12, knows it is offensive to some people. Insofar as it represents Southern history or pride, it represents a time when white people owned black people as property.
Basically, flying the 'confederate' flag is saying, not only did we used to own black slaves, but that is a time I am particularly proud of by evidence of my displaying this flag.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:52 am to UAtide11
You realize the stars and stripes are offensive to some people as well right? Every symbol in today's world is offensive to someone. Get over it. You can't change history and you can't get where your going unless you know where you have been
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:54 am to UAtide11
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Basically, flying the 'confederate' flag is saying, not only did we used to own black slaves, but that is a time I am particularly proud of by evidence of my displaying this flag.
Yes, all these former slave owners walking around with their flags.
So glad Obama freed all of you.
"WE" did not own slaves. No one alive in this nation owned or was owned. Slavery ended 150+ years ago.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 7:56 am to Chazzy McRamzee
Spurrier did it back in 2007.
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