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re: Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:00 am to UAtide11
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:00 am to UAtide11
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Everybody that flies it over the age of 12, knows it is offensive to some people.
I'm offended when I have to see some thug walking down the road with his pants sagging down below his butt, so what recourse do I have-look the other way, that's it! There are people living in this Country who are offended by the American Flag and choose to burn it in public! Does that make it OK? People better wake up, this Country is going to Hell in a handbasket! Don't believe it, look no further than the SCOTUS!
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:00 am to CrimsonBoz
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None of that matters when people do not know the history of the flag or even which one they are talking about. It's asinine to claim a State is flying the Confederate flag when they aren't. If you have an issue with historical markers flying the battle flag of men who died under it, that is your business. My opinion and a that of a great many others in the historical community is just move the battle flags to museums or national monuments where appropriate. As to the states who sorta kinda have parts and pieces of the CSA flag in the state flag. That is complete hog wash and people need to stop trying to bury history.
If you're going to be a Political Correctness Nazi, get it right - it's NOT the "battle flag", it's the CSA battle flag.
Here's another "battle flag":
Note the distinction, Mr. Historian.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:03 am to SavageOrangeJug
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Right now would be a good time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag
Right now would be a good time for politically correct punks like you to shut the hell up about other people's heritage and mind your own business.
Thoughts?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:12 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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it's NOT the "battle flag", it's the CSA battle flag
Notice right before that I set up the next phase by mentioning the Confederate flag so use your powers of observation and realize which battle flag I was referring to.
I wear a similar "battle flag" on my shoulder everyday, but thanks.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:22 am to msudawg1200
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msudawg1200
Some truth to what you say, but my point is that SC is a microcosm for this issue in many other areas - St. Louis, Baltimore, DC, etc. The African American community has their vote taken for granted as a given by Democrats who promise to help in a variety of ways, yet, even though that help never fully arises, the community continues to vote into power Democratic "leadership".
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:29 am to StopRobot
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Can you tell the difference between a flag raised to memorialize fallen soldiers and a flag raised as a defiant "F you" against civil rights?
I dunno they look awful similar
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Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:31 am to CrimsonBoz
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Notice right before that I set up the next phase by mentioning the Confederate flag so use your powers of observation and realize which battle flag I was referring to. I wear a similar "battle flag" on my shoulder everyday, but thanks.
Furthermore it is a Confederate flag, so calling it such isn't incorrect, it just doesn't jibe with right-wing political correctness.
Oh, by the way, here's another confederate flag:
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:32 am to tonydtiger
Have an upvote, sir.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:38 am to Chazzy McRamzee
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Chazzy McRamzee
Take this bullshite to another board .... oh, and frick off.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:43 am to bamasgot13
I agree with you on the "brainwashing" of blacks by the current Democratic Party. My point was that a Democrat in the South in say, 1925, is not the same as a Democrat in 2015.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:43 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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Furthermore it is a Confederate flag, so calling it such isn't incorrect, it just doesn't jibe with right-wing political correctness.
Oh, by the way, here's another confederate flag:
I see what you are trying to do, but elected officials and people representing a state should be aware of the proper terminology of what they are spouting. Lawyers in SC have called the AONV! Battle Flag the CSA Flag. THAT IS NOT CORRECT AT ALL. Stop defending their lack of knowledge, the CSA only recognized THREE flags and none of them are the AONV Battle Flag.
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:50 am to CrimsonBoz
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elected officials and people representing a state should be aware of the proper terminology of what they are spouting
Here you are correcting the OP on page 1:
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First let's clear this up OP, I am a historian, so let me set the record straight.
The confederate flag is not the thing on top of the Dukes of Hazzard car, it's not the thing on the back of some dudes truck. That is the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia and later Tennessee. Typically people misidentify and fly the Battle Flag of Tennessee ( it is longer and more flag like).
All I'm saying is let laymen, like the OP, use common, non-specific terminology that we all understand and stop pushing your political correctness agenda. When the OP says, "...time for Saban to speak out against the rebel flag" we all know what the frick he's talking about, so quit trying to CORRECT him.
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Here's how I read this:
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elected officials and people representing a state [political] should be aware of the proper terminology [correctness] of what they are spouting
This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:52 am to CrimsonBoz
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Please educate yourself and understand what the Confederate flag IS and what it ISN'T.
Would people be any less angry if the battle flag was replaced by the actual CSA flag?
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:56 am to BulldogXero
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Would people be any less angry if the battle flag was replaced by the actual CSA flag?
This is exactly what was done in Louisiana where the flags of all nations Louisiana has been a part of are displayed. It seems to have generated very little controversy.
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This post was edited on 7/1/15 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:57 am to BulldogXero
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Would people be any less angry if the battle flag was replaced by the actual CSA flag?
No ... because that's not what this is about, it never was.
Next week it will be the statues.
After that it will be about who knows what ... but there will always be something the liberal leftie progressive fricktards find offensive that they will use to play the weak-minded fricktards who vote for them.
It's the so-called special "progressive" game they play. Find something symbolic and make it work either for or against the cause.
It's very very much exactly what Hitler and the Nazis did in terms of using symbolism to their benefit on every issue.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:06 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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This is exactly what was done in Louisiana where the flags of all nations Louisiana has been a part of are displayed. It seems to have generated very little controversy.
That's not the final variant of the flag, but it's likely used because people are too dumb to know its a confederate flag.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:10 am to StopRobot
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Can you tell the difference between a flag raised to memorialize fallen soldiers and a flag raised as a defiant "F you" against civil rights?
Actually...I can. The battle flag raised over the top of a state capitol building is definitely a state saying "F you!" in regards to Civil Rights.
A battle flag raised over a Confederate cemetery or Confederate monument is definitely honoring the memory of those soldiers who fell underneath that banner.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:12 am to genuineLSUtiger
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Mississippi is probably the only state that does not have moral or intellectual superiority over the state of Alabama.
That's what we call wishful thinking on your part.
Louisiana & Mississippi tagteam the bottom spots on almost every socioeconomic rankings of the states
Posted on 7/1/15 at 11:17 am to Swoopin
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Louisiana & Mississippi tagteam the bottom spots on almost every socioeconomic rankings of the states
But they have New Orleans, a city so rich and prosperous they can't afford to keep the power on during the Super Bowl.
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