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re: Queston about the Auburn QBs
Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:50 pm to RT1941
Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:50 pm to RT1941
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I can't think of one WR that Gus has put in the pro's that has done anything. Coates went 3rd round last year because of his abilities, not because Gus didn't anything spectacular with him. 10 years Gus has been in the college game and what happens to his WRs?
Not talking about developing but just recruit ranking wise.
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Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:51 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:So you think White transfers out after this semester? That leaves Gus with JJ (has he caught up) and JF3 who is unproven in the SEC.
Gus has made it clear he wants someone who can make dynamic plays from the QB position next year. He wants to get back to pace and the HUNH. He thought he could do it with JJ last season. , but JJ couldn't keep up with the game. White has a good arm, but is limited with his feet.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:52 pm to rockiee
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I can't think of one WR that Gus has put in the pro's that has done anything. Coates went 3rd round last year because of his abilities, not because Gus didn't anything spectacular with him. 10 years Gus has been in the college game and what happens to his WRs?
quote:The best crop of WRs AU has brought in under Gus' regime are the one's that just signed 3 weeks ago.
Not talking about developing but just recruit ranking wise.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:56 pm to RT1941
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I can't think of one WR that Gus has put in the pro's that has done anything. Coates went 3rd round last year because of his abilities, not because Gus didn't anything spectacular with him. 10 years Gus has been in the college game and what happens to his WRs?
Coates was also a 2* project WR, so that is selling Malzahn's job with him a bit short. His time at Auburn he has not had stud WR's for the most part, especially ones that project well in the NFL. He has had guys that can be very productive in college, but that's really their ceiling. The fact Darvin Adams developed into a very good SEC WR is another testament to him. The past two years or so have really been the first time he has gotten stud WR's to come in, so the jury is still a little out in that regard.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:56 pm to RT1941
At AU the only NFL talent that Gus has had was Coates and Duke. He's had a few guys that were very solid college WRs like Darvin Adams, Terrell Zachery, and Emory Blake. None of them had what it takes physically to make it in the NFL though. Of course those 3 were also coach by Trooper though
This year we'll have 5 freshmen that should easily be the most talented group of recievera at AU since 05 with Obamanu, Armashodu, and Courtney Taylor
This year we'll have 5 freshmen that should easily be the most talented group of recievera at AU since 05 with Obamanu, Armashodu, and Courtney Taylor
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 4:57 pm to RT1941
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The best crop of WRs AU has brought in under Gus' regime are the one's that just signed 3 weeks ago.
Ok, I guess that is true but was asking about his other WR classes. Wasn't trying to compare this class to past ones but just mention that I believed he had done well recruiting some WRs in the past but I guess that isn't very true based on some of the other Auburn posters.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:04 pm to rockiee
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Ok, I guess that is true but was asking about this other WR classes.
We had some talent, but most of them ended up getting kicked off the team after Gus left for Arkie St.
Look at our receiving classes in 09, 10, 11, and 12. Deangelo Benton was easily the best ranked in the group, and we know the basket case that he ended up being.
ETA: He hasn't done poorly per say, WR recruiting has just been inconsistent. Development also hasn't been what most would want, which obviously blame starts with him on that as a HC.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:05 pm to rockiee
The 4 guys this year and Darius Slayton last year (who redshirted) are really the only highly sought after guys Gus has signed at WR as HC (other than Duke)
There was a few 4*s while he was OC under Chiz but none really panned out. Blake who was solid, Benton who was a bust, Godwin who is sitting in federal prison for armed home invasion, and a couple non-qualifiers.
There was a few 4*s while he was OC under Chiz but none really panned out. Blake who was solid, Benton who was a bust, Godwin who is sitting in federal prison for armed home invasion, and a couple non-qualifiers.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:13 pm to BowlJackson
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or if Franklin starts that the offense is not meh
Somewhere in this thread you went from being totally sure White is the starter to if Franklin starts.
Looks like theJones did some work on you. Haha
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:15 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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ETA: He hasn't done poorly per say, WR recruiting has just been inconsistent. Development also hasn't been what most would want, which obviously blame starts with him on that as a HC.
Ok that makes sense, thanks for the info
Thought it was relevant because the good class does lead one to believe that the WRs trust Gus to get the right qb in place. Maybe that means he told them that White will start or maybe they just believe in him. A lot has to do with the position coach as well.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:19 pm to rockiee
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Maybe that means he told them that White will start or maybe they just believe in him.
That was the rumor.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:27 pm to DuncanIdaho
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That was the rumor.
It makes sense but Gus has said it was an open competition this month but we know how that goes
Posted on 2/22/16 at 5:56 pm to RT1941
I think White transfers after Aday, because of his position on the depth chart. JJ will be the unknown factor. Last spring and fall, everyone close to the program would tell you JJ did everything right and was the complete package. Something just didn't click when the lights come on for the actual game. Even if he performs well, they will not completely trust him until he proves it on the field. If White ends up in 2nd, he might stay.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 7:34 pm to Irons Puppet
It is unlikely they signed Franklin to sit...but he will still have to win the job.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:18 pm to Irons Puppet
White is perfectly capable of going up tempo. If it were true that it isn't White, I think he would have transferred by now. It's going to be a two QB system with White starting and Franklin running special sets/situations.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:19 pm to Irons Puppet
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I think White transfers after Aday, because of his position on the depth chart.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:57 pm to AUbagman
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It's going to be a two QB system with White starting and Franklin running special sets/situations.
I think this is most likely, he might settle with one more than the other during the season based on who is performing best with the team.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 8:58 pm to rockiee
quote:JF3 is Jason Smith 2.0. Signed as an athlete with be given a shot at QB but will likely end up a WR. He hasn't played much QB at the college or juco level and is unknown. Unless he comes out and runs like Marshall then White will be the QB.
It makes sense but Gus has said it was an open competition this month but we know how that goes
If White hadn't got hurt and we had WRs that could catch the ball when it hits them in the hands then we wouldnt even be having this conversation.
But Gus won't name a starter and will act like it is close no matter how JF3 looks until closer to the season.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 9:00 pm
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:04 pm to Rabern57
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If White hadn't got hurt and we had WRs that could catch the ball when it hits them in the hands then we wouldnt even be having this conversation.
You think so? His WRs definitely screwed him but I still don't think he would be the clear cut starter for next season as of right now.
Posted on 2/22/16 at 9:09 pm to rockiee
quote:Only because JF3 is new and promising him a shot at QB is what got him at Auburn. White is clearly better than JJ and the others haven't played a down. Gus wouldn't let it be known right now either way.
You think so? His WRs definitely screwed him but I still don't think he would be the clear cut starter for next season as of right now.
This post was edited on 2/22/16 at 9:10 pm
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