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re: Program Killing Games In SEC History?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I thought RC went 6-6 at one point?
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:29 pm to Nuts4LSU
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21-0 wasn't the death of LSU football under Les Miles. 21-17 was.
Agreed. This was supposed to be LSU's response to 21-0. While we played well, we were outplayed in the last 2 minutes. Since this game, LSU has fallen from being a top ten football team, LSU has finished #13, #14, unranked, and #16 in each season following that game.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:37 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Program Killing Games
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UGA vs WVU in the Sugar Bowl.
Oh good heavens, Richt still coached 10 more seasons after that! We won the sugar bowl and finished #2 a mere 2 seasons later.
That game didn't expose richt for anything, WVU ran on everyone that year. And let's not forget we outscored them 35-10 starting in the 2nd quarter. That was just a case of making poor adjustments early and great adjustments later, just too late to overcome. I don't see how a 3 point loss in a BCS bowl game could have "killed our program" espeically considering that it didn't kill anything.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:38 pm to WG_Dawg
Yeah I don't think any game killed UGA's program.
Yet.
Yet.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:41 pm to cardboardboxer
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I thought RC went 6-6 at one point?
Twice. 1996 and 2002. In 1996, he was protected by Wally Groff. In 2002, Groff was out.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:44 pm to Lakeboy7
It exposed Miles, corrective measure coming
he is still the head coach, correct?
Lulz.
he is still the head coach, correct?
Lulz.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:48 pm to cardboardboxer
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Yeah I don't think any game killed UGA's program.
I don't either. Some programs have THAT game where everythign goes downhill from there. We just had a slow, steady decline into mediocrity that was built on years of shortcomings.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:57 pm to ThoseGuys
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21-0 set our program back, but it wasn't a nail in the coffin lost like the OP is trying to make. That game took us from National title contenders every year to "hopefully we get a January bowl game".
I'm not even sure that's true. LSU was in contention for the title in 2012 until TJ Yeldon, and was in contention in 2015 while LF was on the way to a Heisman until Bama game.
One game hasn't kept LSU out of the annual title hunt. it's a series of games.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:58 pm to cardboardboxer
Texas has never been the same since Colt got hit in her vagina.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:58 pm to cardboardboxer
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I think our 2014 win vs USC basically killed Spurrier's program. Or maybe it is we knocked it to the ground and the Citadel delivered the final blow. I think if the whole "we had Herman until the Citadel" is true that is the worst program loss I have ever heard of
Truth be told, Spurrier himself killed the program. That game just brought to light the fact the emperor had no clothes (or players as the case may be....)
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:03 pm to GIbson05
2012 broke the program.
#5 LSU vs #1 Alabama. Winner goes on to win SEC and National Championship. LSU was playing for revenge in front of a sold out Death Valley. Came storming back from a 14-3 deficit, only to give up a 4 play touchdown drive with under two minutes.
Prior to this game Miles was 3-3 vs Saban. This game was the nail in the coffin
#5 LSU vs #1 Alabama. Winner goes on to win SEC and National Championship. LSU was playing for revenge in front of a sold out Death Valley. Came storming back from a 14-3 deficit, only to give up a 4 play touchdown drive with under two minutes.
Prior to this game Miles was 3-3 vs Saban. This game was the nail in the coffin
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:05 pm to Nuts4LSU
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I disagree. That one was bad, but the one that killed it was the next year in Tiger Stadium. You say LSU hasn't been close to a NC since 21-0? In 2012, we were top five or six when we hosted #1 Alabama and appeared to have the game won until the late TD drive. That game, and specifically that drive, is what ruined Les Miles' LSU program. If we stop that drive and win that game, we go on to win the West, probably beat Florida in a rematch in the SECCG, likely beat Notre Dame in the BCSNCG and then all is well and 21-0 is forgotten.
21-0 wasn't the death of LSU football under Les Miles. 21-17 was.
I don't disagree with this at all, except you guys would have played Georgia in the SECCG, no?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:07 pm to Gary Busey
Yeah it would have been UGA. Would have been no telling who would have won that game. Bama-UGA-LSU were all pretty equal.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:15 pm to cardboardboxer
Good thread.
I had dim hopes he could get the mojo back this year, but it doesn't seem likely now. He's playing out the string, maybe through next year but not longer than that.
quote:Really, given how the last three minutes played out, it was a self-inflicted wound - but yeah, that was the night AU's incredible run of good luck under Gustav ran out.
-In retrospect it seems like we killed Gus's program with our 2014 win over them
I had dim hopes he could get the mojo back this year, but it doesn't seem likely now. He's playing out the string, maybe through next year but not longer than that.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:22 pm to cardboardboxer
At LSU I've seen games kill coaches, but not really the program.
Vandy killed Mike Archer in 1990.
Southern Miss killed Curley in 1994.
Houston killed Dinardo in 1999.
Vandy killed Mike Archer in 1990.
Southern Miss killed Curley in 1994.
Houston killed Dinardo in 1999.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:44 pm to cardboardboxer
2001 SEC Championship Game.
Tennessee still hasn't recovered.
Tennessee still hasn't recovered.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:44 pm to Lonnie Utah
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Truth be told, Spurrier himself killed the program. That game just brought to light the fact the emperor had no clothes (or players as the case may be....)
That is the case with all these games- something behind the scenes changed that caused the drop off prior to the loss.
With Miami it was an administration hostile to athletics (and the fact their best cheater got arrested). With Vandy it was not hiring a good enough replacement to Franklin. With Texas it was poor QB roster management and recruitment after Vince left (Colt was a three star they got lucky with).
The "program killing game" is merely the reflection of what happened behind the scenes, but it is still significant when it happens because that is when the world learns "hey these guys fricked up!"
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:45 pm to FearlessFreep
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Good thread.
Thank you.
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Really, given how the last three minutes played out, it was a self-inflicted wound - but yeah, that was the night AU's incredible run of good luck under Gustav ran out.
Yeah sometimes it's not that the other team beats you per-say, but the fact you can't get out of your own way.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:45 pm to cardboardboxer
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With Vandy it was not hiring a good enough replacement to Franklin.
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:49 pm to cardboardboxer
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For one not involving us I think LSU killed Will Muschamp's Florida in 2013. They never recovered from that loss after winning 11 games the year before.
You could make a better argument for the 2014 LSU-Florida game killing Muschamp's Florida. Even that would be hollow though because we beat Georgia by three scores two games later. So we did recover.
Hiring Will Muschamp killed Will Muschamp's Florida.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 3:51 pm
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