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re: Over at ESPN, more talk of Auburn moving to East div., so.......
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:17 pm to BHMKyle
Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:17 pm to BHMKyle
quote:Vandy had a good stretch under Franklin as did we with Brooks, but otherwise, we're just playing our part. Just thank us for the easy W, lay down during basketball season, and we're all good.
BHMKyle
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 5:29 pm to BHMKyle
But it's really not. Using your two time frames the West won the conference 61% of the time pre expansion vs 73% of the time in the past 15 years. Significant gap.
And I think we can all agree modern Florida is a lot better than what they were pre expansion and I see no reason that doesn't continue.
And I think we can all agree modern Florida is a lot better than what they were pre expansion and I see no reason that doesn't continue.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:03 am to Gary Busey
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Could happen. Maybe Georgia and Auburn play the last game of the year. Georgia dominates GTECH.
Nah...Thanksgiving tastes better watching another GnaTs loss! :)
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:05 am to MoonrakerElite
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Go to 9 or 10 game schedule
YES
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do away with divisions.
NO
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:11 am to BHMKyle
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Just look at it in terms of AP Poll points since 2000.
Why not use 1992 since that's when divisions STARTED?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:11 am to Tidemeister
We have to pass the offseason somehow they do as well and they have to generate content -- ANY content -- while they're passing time. Every year expansions and changes to division or even the title game come up. It is what it is. Rule changes, even minor ones feed the offseason too.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 6:14 am
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:14 am to Irons Puppet
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I think you will see a sixteen team SEC with four divisions.
YES
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A four team SEC playoff with the winner getting a automatic bid to the playoff.
NO
2 pods will be paired up annually (alternating every year & repeating every 3rd year). The winners of those paired groups go to the SECCG.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:25 am to DuncanIdaho
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They have played LSU and the Mississippi schools and Arkansas every year for over 20 years now
And there are kids who go their entire career without playing traditional rivals like UF and UT.
Before adding TA&M & Mizz., you saw everybody in the other div. @ least once every 4 yrs.!
Year 1 - A, @B
Year 2 - B, @C
Year 3 - C, @D
Year 4 - D, @E
Year 5 - E, @A
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:12 am to JesusQuintana
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Using your two time frames the West won the conference 61% of the time pre expansion vs 73% of the time in the past 15 years. Significant gap.
Significant gap? I see the West dominating both time periods from those stats, which is my entire point! The Western half of the SEC footprint has ALWAYS been stronger than the East. It was prior to expansion in 1992, and its been that way under divisional play as well... especially the past 15 years.
Florida's dominance of the 1990s masked the imbalance for about a decade. But there is no "cycle" about this at all. The West is simply the stronger division. I think if the conference has the ability to even things up, it should do so.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:23 am to BHMKyle
But again, moving Auburn to the East wouldn't even things up. It would just take a downturn for Bama or LSU for the East to start dominating.
It's 13-11. 3 Big 6 teams on each side. About as even as you are going to get while still being somewhat geographically sensical.
If things are to even out it will take UT, UGA and UF playing to their capabilities or a downturn for a couple West powers. Cyclical
Sankey shut it down anyway, thankfully.
It's 13-11. 3 Big 6 teams on each side. About as even as you are going to get while still being somewhat geographically sensical.
If things are to even out it will take UT, UGA and UF playing to their capabilities or a downturn for a couple West powers. Cyclical
Sankey shut it down anyway, thankfully.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 8:24 am
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:25 am to JRoweMDN
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I wish Auburn played UF on a regular basis. It was a good rivalry and it is close to home for me. I would miss the LSU game, and I am not really sure how I feel about the IB going away. I cannot think of another team that would have a rivalry opening for the last game. Also that game gets so much hype, the winner gets a bump in the polls that may get them into the CFP. That would suck to wind up playing some OOC nothing game while everyone else dukes it out.
My sentiments as well. Iron Bowl is a staple in American sports, yet miss going to Knoxville and Gainesville.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:36 am to MoonrakerElite
There should be an sec schedule lottery each year
Posted on 6/1/16 at 9:16 am to Ancient Astronaut
I think someone had this idea earlier, but why not just switch Auburn and Tennessee?
Tennessee's rivalries with Florida and Georgia are both relatively new. I mean prior to 1992, Florida would not have even listed Tennessee as a rival. And Georgia would still have considered Florida, Auburn, and Georgia Tech its three biggest rivals.
Sure Tennessee has a long history with Vanderbilt and Kentucky.... but would losing the UT-UK rivalry really hurt the conference all that much? Not sure many people outside of Lexington would notice it was gone.
The annual cross-divisional rivalries would look like this:
Alabama-Auburn
Tennessee-Vanderbilt
LSU-Florida
Ole Miss-Georgia
Arkansas-Missouri
Texas A&M-South Carolina
Mississippi St.-Kentucky
The conference would lose the following annual rivalries:
Tennessee vs. Kentucky (108)
Auburn vs. Mississippi State (89)
Ole Miss vs. Vanderbilt (86)
Auburn vs. LSU (49)
Tennessee vs. Florida (45)
Tennessee vs. Georgia (44)
Auburn vs. Ole Miss (40)
Tennessee vs. South Carolina (34)
Auburn vs. Arkansas (25)
Auburn vs. Texas A&M (6)
Tennessee vs. Missouri (4)
But it would gain back the following rivalries on an annual basis:
Auburn vs. Florida (84)
Tennessee vs. Ole Miss (65)
Tennessee vs. Mississippi State (45)
Georgia vs. Ole Miss (45)
Auburn vs. Vanderbilt (38)
Auburn vs. Kentucky (33)
Tennessee vs. LSU (32)
Tennessee vs. Arkansas (18)
Auburn vs. South Carolina (12)
Auburn vs. Missouri (2)
Tennessee vs. Texas A&M (2)
The three biggest "losses" in terms of annual meetings would be three games that rarely have any meaning: Tennessee vs. Kentucky, Auburn vs. Mississippi State, Ole Miss vs. Vanderbilt.
I'd trade those "losses" for gaining back Auburn vs. Florida, Tennessee vs. Ole Miss, and even Georgia vs. Ole Miss.
Tennessee's rivalries with Florida and Georgia are both relatively new. I mean prior to 1992, Florida would not have even listed Tennessee as a rival. And Georgia would still have considered Florida, Auburn, and Georgia Tech its three biggest rivals.
Sure Tennessee has a long history with Vanderbilt and Kentucky.... but would losing the UT-UK rivalry really hurt the conference all that much? Not sure many people outside of Lexington would notice it was gone.
The annual cross-divisional rivalries would look like this:
Alabama-Auburn
Tennessee-Vanderbilt
LSU-Florida
Ole Miss-Georgia
Arkansas-Missouri
Texas A&M-South Carolina
Mississippi St.-Kentucky
The conference would lose the following annual rivalries:
Tennessee vs. Kentucky (108)
Auburn vs. Mississippi State (89)
Ole Miss vs. Vanderbilt (86)
Auburn vs. LSU (49)
Tennessee vs. Florida (45)
Tennessee vs. Georgia (44)
Auburn vs. Ole Miss (40)
Tennessee vs. South Carolina (34)
Auburn vs. Arkansas (25)
Auburn vs. Texas A&M (6)
Tennessee vs. Missouri (4)
But it would gain back the following rivalries on an annual basis:
Auburn vs. Florida (84)
Tennessee vs. Ole Miss (65)
Tennessee vs. Mississippi State (45)
Georgia vs. Ole Miss (45)
Auburn vs. Vanderbilt (38)
Auburn vs. Kentucky (33)
Tennessee vs. LSU (32)
Tennessee vs. Arkansas (18)
Auburn vs. South Carolina (12)
Auburn vs. Missouri (2)
Tennessee vs. Texas A&M (2)
The three biggest "losses" in terms of annual meetings would be three games that rarely have any meaning: Tennessee vs. Kentucky, Auburn vs. Mississippi State, Ole Miss vs. Vanderbilt.
I'd trade those "losses" for gaining back Auburn vs. Florida, Tennessee vs. Ole Miss, and even Georgia vs. Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:29 pm to BHMKyle
You want to end Tn./Ky. @ 108 games when DSOR is @ 120?
That alone gives it a down vote from me.
That alone gives it a down vote from me.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:44 pm to southernboisb
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You want to end Tn./Ky. @ 108 games when DSOR is @ 120?
The DSOR is actually a meaningful game.
Tennessee vs. Kentucky has produced a lot of meetings, but can anyone tell me the last time the game was significant? Or if it ever had any significance for that matter.
If the cost of equalizing the strength of the league is only the Tennessee vs. Kentucky "rivalry", then its a no-brainer.... especially if the league gains back the Auburn-Florida rivalry on an annual basis. That seems like a pretty good trade, IMO.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:50 pm to BHMKyle
The reason AU wants to move to the east is to keep from playing big brother every year. Not hard to understand...
Posted on 6/1/16 at 2:54 pm to Herman Frisco
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The reason AU wants to move to the east is to keep from playing big brother every year. Not hard to understand...
I don't think I've ever seen anyone, including Auburn fans, clamoring to end the Iron Bowl. I think its pretty much agreed upon by everyone that if Auburn were to move to the East, then their annual cross-divisional rival would be Alabama.
Has anyone ever said anything to the contrary?
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:03 pm to Tidemeister
So right when Tennessee seems to be getting their shite together Bama wants to move Aubie east and make them the permanent cross conference rival ehh?
Seems legit.
Seems legit.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:19 pm to BHMKyle
108 games DOES have significance for it to still continue.
Posted on 6/1/16 at 4:24 pm to Dr RC
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So right when Tennessee seems to be getting their shite together Bama wants to move Aubie east and make them the permanent cross conference rival ehh?
Seems legit.
Ain't Bama telling Aub. to go.....it's Aub. making all the noise about switching.
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