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Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:30 am to Tidemeister
I wouldn't mind playing it earlier in the season so I could actually relax and enjoy other games that weekend.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:32 am to AlabamaAlum07
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I wouldn't mind playing it earlier in the season so I could actually relax and enjoy other games that weekend.
I always wonder what the W/L record might look like if we had AU in September? I tend to think it would favor Bama...when they get up a head a steam in a season they can be tough to beat by the time the Iron Bowl rolls around.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:33 am to geauxnavybeatbama
quote:Nobody. SEC original members can't be kicked out. So you're stuck with us
Who do we get to replace ole miss after the book gets thrown at them?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:34 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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Makes sense to put Auburn plus bama in the East and Missouri plus vandy in the west
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:36 am to StopRobot
quote:It's simple. We're Auburn. We'll pay them.
I just want someone to explain how AU plans to get the current East teams to vote to allow them to move there.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:39 am to Huddie Leadbetter
quote:I thought I saw where Missouri was closer to the East schools (other than Florida) than it is to the West schools.
Makes sense to put Auburn in the East and Missouri in the west.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:40 am to 14&Counting
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They draw their student a lot from Georgia and Florida...lot of long time history with East teams like UT and UF not to mention UGA. Plus the balance of the conference seems wonky with Mizzou in the east. It's not really helping Mizzou much either.
They also pull some from Kentucky with the Vet School setup.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:43 am to nicholastiger
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More expansion would be only way to change divisions.
Iron Bowl first game of the year would be epic.
9 game sec schedule with an opening weekend of all sec games needs to happen
If we expanded to 9 games, we wouldn't really need to change divisions.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:43 am to RightHook
Yeah I'm sure you'd LOVE that as LSU fan being able to make reservations in Atlanta every year. 
Posted on 5/31/16 at 11:50 am to 14&Counting
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in terms of geography
Not really. We have more border states in the East division and with Arkansas as our permanent West opponent our travel is not that bad.
Besides, as was said earlier moving Auburn puts 4 of the Big 6 teams in the East.
It's a stupid idea and no idea why it gets so much traction here.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:07 pm to Tidemeister
I'd rather give up the Auburn game and keep Tennessee.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:07 pm to Gary Busey
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Hell, doesn't AU offer instate tuition to some HS student from Georgia?
Hell no. It would be nice.
I think there actually is an exception to HOPE if you go out-of-state to a school that offers a major not available in one of the Georgia schools. Maybe something in the bovine field!
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:17 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
quote:Troll account. Used rancorous correctly in a sentence. Can't be a Rant regular.
the Alabama/Auburn series has become so rancorous
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:17 pm to DuncanIdaho
Last I heard, and that was last yr before the SEC Spring meetings, Saban is the only SEC coach who wants a 9 game schedule. None of the others want it, let alone are pushing for it. But as for bama having to possibly play AU twice, with the gator's resurgence, LSU is facing the possibility of having to play them twice, which has been one of LSU's main gripes.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:20 pm to Tillman
Because Auburn is further east than two East teams?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:27 pm to DuncanIdaho
quote:quote:Hell no. It would be nice. I think there actually is an exception to HOPE if you go out-of-state to a school that offers a major not available in one of the Georgia schools. Maybe something in the bovine field!
Hell, doesn't AU offer instate tuition to some HS student from Georgia?
At one time there was some obscure law or rule that allowed Auburn to offer in state tuition to certain Georgia residents. I want to say that the official place of residence had to be within a 50 mile radius of the Auburn campus, so that really limited it a small swatch of Harris and Troup Counties.
Not sure if that law/rule is still in place.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:33 pm to Tidemeister
Long overdue.
Auburn moving to the East would help balance out divisions from a strength standpoint. Historically, there were three "Big 6" programs on each side of the conference, so it made sense. The problem is that Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Texas A&M are the "Next 3" behind the Big 6, and they are all on that western side. Mississippi State has also shown far more promise during the past 15-20 years than say Vandy & Kentucky.
Just look at it in terms of AP Poll points since 2000. If you total up each teams' points for finishing in the AP Top 25 at the end of each of the past 16 seasons, the West has 723 points, and the East has 552 points....a pretty decent gap, IMO.
#1 Alabama- 210
#1 LSU- 210
#3 Georgia- 172
#4 Florida- 159
#5 Auburn- 137
#6 S. Carolina- 81
#7 Missouri- 70
#8 Tennessee- 65
#9 Ole Miss- 56
#10 Arkansas- 46
#11 Texas A&M- 36
#12 Mississippi St.- 28
#13 Vanderbilt- 5
#14 Kentucky- 0
Essentially the biggest problem is the West has by far the two strongest programs of the past 1.5 decades... and the East has by far the two weakest programs of the past 1.5 decades. This creates a noticeable imbalance.
Auburn has also performed well for the West, coming in at a strong #5 spot (137 points)... far ahead of South Carolina who is #6 (81 points). The fact of the matter is that the top 3 programs in the West (LSU, Alabama, & Auburn) combine for 557 total AP Poll points since 2000.... which is more than the entire 7-team Eastern Division (552 points)
That 723-552 gap shrinks to just 656-619 if you switch Auburn and Missouri. That gap shrinks from 171 down to just 37. Switching Auburn and Mizzou would likely result in the West STILL being slightly stronger from top to bottom, but it would go a very long way towards shrinking that gap.
The problem is also this: South Carolina actually comes out to be the #6 SEC program in the AP since 2000... I don't think anyone expects them to replicate that during the NEXT 15 years. Meanwhile, Texas A&M comes in as the #11 program (out of 14) since 2000.... with their facility upgrades and obvious commitment to build a winning program, I think most any prognosticator would project them to finish better than 11th in the SEC over the next 15 seasons.
Also, even though Alabama ties with LSU in AP Poll standing since 2000, Alabama essentially gave everyone else an 8-year jump.... having minimual success from 2000-2007. Their performance over the next 15 seasons should likely average out to be better than the last 15 years, believe it or not.
So the gap looks like it could actually get worse if nothing is done to try to fix it.
Auburn moving to the East would help balance out divisions from a strength standpoint. Historically, there were three "Big 6" programs on each side of the conference, so it made sense. The problem is that Ole Miss, Arkansas, and Texas A&M are the "Next 3" behind the Big 6, and they are all on that western side. Mississippi State has also shown far more promise during the past 15-20 years than say Vandy & Kentucky.
Just look at it in terms of AP Poll points since 2000. If you total up each teams' points for finishing in the AP Top 25 at the end of each of the past 16 seasons, the West has 723 points, and the East has 552 points....a pretty decent gap, IMO.
#1 Alabama- 210
#1 LSU- 210
#3 Georgia- 172
#4 Florida- 159
#5 Auburn- 137
#6 S. Carolina- 81
#7 Missouri- 70
#8 Tennessee- 65
#9 Ole Miss- 56
#10 Arkansas- 46
#11 Texas A&M- 36
#12 Mississippi St.- 28
#13 Vanderbilt- 5
#14 Kentucky- 0
Essentially the biggest problem is the West has by far the two strongest programs of the past 1.5 decades... and the East has by far the two weakest programs of the past 1.5 decades. This creates a noticeable imbalance.
Auburn has also performed well for the West, coming in at a strong #5 spot (137 points)... far ahead of South Carolina who is #6 (81 points). The fact of the matter is that the top 3 programs in the West (LSU, Alabama, & Auburn) combine for 557 total AP Poll points since 2000.... which is more than the entire 7-team Eastern Division (552 points)
That 723-552 gap shrinks to just 656-619 if you switch Auburn and Missouri. That gap shrinks from 171 down to just 37. Switching Auburn and Mizzou would likely result in the West STILL being slightly stronger from top to bottom, but it would go a very long way towards shrinking that gap.
The problem is also this: South Carolina actually comes out to be the #6 SEC program in the AP since 2000... I don't think anyone expects them to replicate that during the NEXT 15 years. Meanwhile, Texas A&M comes in as the #11 program (out of 14) since 2000.... with their facility upgrades and obvious commitment to build a winning program, I think most any prognosticator would project them to finish better than 11th in the SEC over the next 15 seasons.
Also, even though Alabama ties with LSU in AP Poll standing since 2000, Alabama essentially gave everyone else an 8-year jump.... having minimual success from 2000-2007. Their performance over the next 15 seasons should likely average out to be better than the last 15 years, believe it or not.
So the gap looks like it could actually get worse if nothing is done to try to fix it.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:37 pm to DuncanIdaho
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Agree. Me either.
I wouldn't want to play Bama every year either.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 12:43 pm to AlabamaAlum07
just a happy coincidence that using proper geography works out for us.
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