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re: Ole Miss fans, question.

Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:11 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:11 pm to
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Just because i have voices in my head telling me stories doesn't change the fact that I heard it. They are afterall stories, i didn't make the determination whether the voices in my head told me if they were fact or fiction.


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Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:14 pm to
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What's done is done, and the NCAA investigation is done.


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The NOA pretty much is the end of it, this is just OM's rebuttal to help with mitigating factors to lessen penalties. UA and USC didnt agree with their original NOA's and looked at what happened to them...



Yeah, the NCAA ain't amending that shite again. And #39/#40 don't have to recant a damn thing. Those SA's are protected by the NCAA and the programs they are under scholarship with.

An OM Booster nit-picking the one little accusation against him won't drive the NCAA to waiver one bit.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:17 pm to
Lighten up. I'm sorry i forgot to add the sarcasterks. this thing is done. Enjoy the summer. OM is F**ed
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3802 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:17 pm to
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The NCAA used secret fricking witness testimony to hammer Alabama in the Albert Means case.


bullshite, you got ratted out by a HS coach and there was a paper trail.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:17 pm to
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A. Lewis and Jones lied regarding RR - that much is certain.


No, it's not "certain"! Get off that fricking koolaid drinking narrative. Did it happen EXACTLY AS THEY SAID? No. But just because a few details about how it was paid for or if there were security tags on it DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MEAN ITS ALL A LIE.

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C. Nope, not at all. Ole Miss is in trouble, but a overwhelming majority of the amended NOA is based on Lewis' allegations.


The Leo Lewis parts of it are still small potatoes compared to the rest. It's the academic fraud along with the other stuff that is going to destroy you.

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D. It won't make it to court. The facts are all against them, and they'll recant.


You are correct about it not making it to courts but NOT for the reason you are saying. The "facts" you speak of are meaningless talking points that you have been instructed to say and really want to believe will change everything but any lawyer worth a damn will tell you that getting past the minor details is insignificant, especially in a case like this.


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Yeah, the NCAA can totally ignore outcomes from the legal system. That makes sense. Again, this won't make it to court - they'll recant their statements, which absolutely would have a huge impact to the amended NOA.



Even IF THEY RECANT. The NCAA can STILL PUNISH OLE MISS FOR IT BECAUSE THEY ARE RECANTING TO THE COIRT OF LAW NOT THE NCAA.

You pissed the NCAA off. You are fricked beyond belief and no amount of lawyering is going to change that.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3802 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:19 pm to
Ash, get your arse back to the kitchen or doing laundry. Does your husband known you're playing around on the internet?
Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:23 pm to
MullenBoys until the issue's resolved:

Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:30 pm to
I think Rebel fan fails to realize where the offer of immunity comes from. The COI grants immunity, and they grant immunity based on evidence already obtained. The COI doesn't just say " Here's immunity if you'll say something bad about Institution X"

SA39 and SA40 both had testimony which obviously fell right in line with prior evidence gathered by the Enforcement staff.

This whole suit is kabuki theater designed to draw sympathy for RR. Look at how OM fans are lining up to support a Rebel Rags store thats going to get them hammered.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17444 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:36 pm to
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SA39 and SA40 both had testimony which obviously fell right in line with prior evidence gathered by the Enforcement staff.


Wonder how their stories "fell right in line" with LM's? Wonder why 15 other more highly rated recruits, to include another that went to MSU, didn't get the same treatment? Better yet wonder why their coaches, family and friends said they didn't see anything of what SA39 and SA40 said they received.....even the ones that never left their sides on the weekends they identified?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:42 pm to
Maybe their testimony fell right in line with the undercover ops that the NCAA and the University were running on RR?
The owner of RR was the one who went crying to SpiritChuck about sting operations
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:46 pm to
BINGO!

The NCAA Investigators requested immunity from the COI for certain players in a effort to backup evidence and corroborate testimony they'd already gathered in their case file. The COI granted immunity to certain SA's and their testimony was allowed to be included in the allegations.

Now, do the OM folks really believe that the very same COI that granted immunity will go back and pull that immunity from the SA's and Amend the NOA again?
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3802 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Now, do the OM folks really believe that the very same COI that granted immunity will go back and pull that immunity from the SA's and Amend the NOA again?


Serious question - if those same SA's publicly recant their stories do you honestly believe the COI will ignore that?
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:49 pm to
are you in an old folks home. What do you win if you get a BINGO? a free pair of depends? extra jello?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:57 pm to
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Now, do the OM folks really believe that the very same COI that granted immunity will go back and pull that immunity from the SA's and Amend the NOA again?


The biggest drama , imo, is the official stance that the University is taking. Mr Merkel is a devoted booster , a man with his name on a campus structure. No way in Hades that he filed this without consulting OM brass.

An SEC institution of higher learning is down to defending itself through an ambulance chaser who is throwing laughable lawsuits around on behalf of a t-shirt peddler .

Let's all hope that these Ol' Times There are Not Forgotten
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:59 pm to
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if those same SA's publicly recant their stories do you honestly believe the COI will ignore that?


I'll say yes
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:02 pm to
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Ash, get your arse back to the kitchen or doing laundry. Does your husband known you're playing around on the internet?



You really are a clueless (and dickless) bastard aren't you?
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Wonder why 15 other more highly rated recruits, to include another that went to MSU, didn't get the same treatment


Well there it is folks. Case closed. 15 other recruits didn't testify to the same thing as LL. It must be because they didn't receive anything instead of that they JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE INVESTIGATION AND THUSLY KEPT THEIR MOUTHS SHUT.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:11 pm to
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Serious question - if those same SA's publicly recant their stories do you honestly believe the COI will ignore that?



Serious answer - I see no reason whatsoever for those SA's to ever darken the door of a deposition. I see no reason for them to ever have to address the testimony they gave the NCAA during the investigation.

What's done is done, the NCAA investigators requested immunity from the Committee on Infractions and they granted immunity to the SA's for their testimony.

The SA's are under the protection of the NCAA and the school they are under scholarship. Their lawyers and the NCAA will protect them from intimidation from some "Mom 'n Pop" clothing store owner in Oxford.

Posted by Stillinthegrove
Tupelo, MS
Member since Dec 2012
294 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:20 pm to
We'll see soon enough.

Leo Lewis deposition is scheduled for July 19th @ 10 am

Kobe Jones deposition is schedule for July 19th @ 1 pm
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3802 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 3:25 pm to
Dammit Ash, we don't need you bleeding all over another thread!
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