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Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:59 am to Vecchio Cane
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:59 am to Vecchio Cane
That was such a horrible show. Having to hear about cathead biscuits constantly. But nope, I pay no attention to him (didn't realize he still had a show).
And now now - don't go calling someone a criminal when an ex-con is carrying the flag for you guys. :)
And now now - don't go calling someone a criminal when an ex-con is carrying the flag for you guys. :)
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Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:00 am to Vecchio Cane
Yeah, McKinney and Max Howell that was bad. I remember way back when McKinney was sports editor of The Meridian Star. If you look up Ole Miss douche in a dictionary you'll see a picture of Scott McKinney. I can't(well I guess I can considering who they are) believe those idiots would listen to anything that dumbass says.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:03 am to yatesdog38
quote:I am thinking you are making that up.
I'm hearing stories that the Mississippi Bar Association is gonna let Dickie Scruggs practice law again and he is gonna sue Merkel for extortion on behalf of the Leo Lewis family
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:04 am to Pickle_Weasel
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cathead biscuits
I forgot about those
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:07 am to Pickle_Weasel
quote:Max would have weighed 800 lbs if he actually ate "what's for supper".
That was such a horrible show. Having to hear about cathead biscuits constantly.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:22 pm to MullenBoys
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The charges against Farrar include:
Providing lodging and transportation to Ole Miss football recruits worth $2,200, and meals worth $235
Providing false information knowingly about recruiting violations when asked by the NCAA and Ole Miss football officials
Boosters contacting one athlete committed to another NCAA football program ( revealed in various reports to be Mississippi State linebacker Leo Lewis), and allowed cash payment(s) to that athlete totaling $13,000-$15,000
Distributing athletic gear, courtesy of a company owned by an Ole Miss booster, to recruits
Farrar falling on the sword in order to help out a friend who's 2 yrs shy of tenure as a state employee?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:40 pm to partsman103
quote:So if Farrar orchestrated the merchandise from and "Ole Miss booster" (assuming it's RR) then why didn't the lawsuit also name Farrar? That was a publication and if it is defaming, disparaging and conspiracy for the 3 named, how could this one be left out?
The charges against Farrar include:
Providing lodging and transportation to Ole Miss football recruits worth $2,200, and meals worth $235
Providing false information knowingly about recruiting violations when asked by the NCAA and Ole Miss football officials
Boosters contacting one athlete committed to another NCAA football program ( revealed in various reports to be Mississippi State linebacker Leo Lewis), and allowed cash payment(s) to that athlete totaling $13,000-$15,000
Distributing athletic gear, courtesy of a company owned by an Ole Miss booster, to recruits
Farrar falling on the sword in order to help out a friend who's 2 yrs shy of tenure as a state employee?
Posted on 6/21/17 at 12:59 pm to Diamondawg
This story paints the lawsuit as a direct threat to the NCAA LINK /
Fascinating.
quote:
I surely hope they withdraw it [allegation against Rebel Rags]. But if they don’t, then I don’t know,” Merkel said.
Fascinating.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:17 pm to Pickle_Weasel
quote:I'll be shocked if Lewis & Jones ever have to appear for the deposition.
The one thing they never planned on was RR filing a lawsuit against those kids. Now they are all arse chapped because Lewis and Jones are about to recant their stories.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:19 pm to RT1941
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I'll be shocked if Lewis & Jones ever have to appear for the deposition.
I'm thinking they'll recant prior to the deposition. In which case, the lawsuit will be withdrawn. RR is "all in" on the lawsuit, so one of the two will end up happening.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:38 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Honest question: Could #39 and #40 (somebody is going to have to answer for releasing their names) recant their NCAA testimony, even if they wanted to?
The NCAA report is signed, sealed, and delivered. Even if these 2 kids change their story, the NCAA investigators will just tell the COI that they changed because they were threatened by RR.
Just when you think OM couldn't handle this any worse, they deliver again
The NCAA report is signed, sealed, and delivered. Even if these 2 kids change their story, the NCAA investigators will just tell the COI that they changed because they were threatened by RR.
Just when you think OM couldn't handle this any worse, they deliver again
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:48 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:
Just when you think OM couldn't handle this any worse, they deliver again
Ole Miss isn't the party filing the lawsuit. Not sure how many times that has to be said.
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Honest question: Could #39 and #40 (somebody is going to have to answer for releasing their names) recant their NCAA testimony, even if they wanted to?
Short answer - yes, they can. Having said that, their immunity agreement would be gone at that point. And the mysterious money Lewis claims he received from multiple SEC schools? He'd either have to recant that as well to remain eligible, or his college playing days are over.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:50 pm to Diamondawg
Just because i have voices in my head telling me stories doesn't change the fact that I heard it. They are afterall stories, i didn't make the determination whether the voices in my head told me if they were fact or fiction.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:52 pm to Vecchio Cane
The underlying assumptions of these OM believers are great.
A. Lewis and Jones lied (almost entirely) about receiving free stuff from RR
B. The MSU coaches and administrators orchestrated these lies
C. The NCAA infractions regarding Lewis and Jones hinge solely on their receipt of free merch from RR
D. RR is 100% going to catch Lewis and Jones in the total fabrication of these stories (like a courtroom drama)
E. The NCAA gives a single shite about this small claims court BS, as if they didn't spend years gathering and corroborating evidence against OM with which another arm of the same organization is going to absolutely hammer them
The pretzel they've twisted themselves into to claim some sort of righteous indignation is hilarious to me. It's like believing that the stars aligned in recruiting because best friends and big brothers were on the team. Or that the NCAA was spending years investigating a women's bball team.
The odds of these things all being true and going down the way they think is incredibly small. It's almost like watching somebody playing cards that needs 3 spades in a row and that guy saying "well there's a 25% chance I get a spade, so 25 times 3, I've got a 75% chance"
A. Lewis and Jones lied (almost entirely) about receiving free stuff from RR
B. The MSU coaches and administrators orchestrated these lies
C. The NCAA infractions regarding Lewis and Jones hinge solely on their receipt of free merch from RR
D. RR is 100% going to catch Lewis and Jones in the total fabrication of these stories (like a courtroom drama)
E. The NCAA gives a single shite about this small claims court BS, as if they didn't spend years gathering and corroborating evidence against OM with which another arm of the same organization is going to absolutely hammer them
The pretzel they've twisted themselves into to claim some sort of righteous indignation is hilarious to me. It's like believing that the stars aligned in recruiting because best friends and big brothers were on the team. Or that the NCAA was spending years investigating a women's bball team.
The odds of these things all being true and going down the way they think is incredibly small. It's almost like watching somebody playing cards that needs 3 spades in a row and that guy saying "well there's a 25% chance I get a spade, so 25 times 3, I've got a 75% chance"
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:56 pm to UAtide11
*OM Beliebers
FIFY
FIFY
Posted on 6/21/17 at 1:59 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:Exactly what I' thinking.
Honest question: Could #39 and #40 (somebody is going to have to answer for releasing their names) recant their NCAA testimony, even if they wanted to?
The NCAA report is signed, sealed, and delivered. Even if these 2 kids change their story, the NCAA investigators will just tell the COI that they changed because they were threatened by RR.
Just when you think OM couldn't handle this any worse, they deliver again
What's done is done, and the NCAA investigation is done.
OleMiss filed their response to the initial NOA and the amended version. All #39/#40 have to do is tell the NCAA that they're getting their names drug through the mud by RR publicly and they're in fear of RR.
The NCAA's mission is to protect the student-athlete, it's shocking that OleMiss has over 3 DOZEN Student-Athletes named in that NOA.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:03 pm to UAtide11
I'm not sure where you got all of that from UAtide11. Seems you're making the assumptions here.
A. Lewis and Jones lied regarding RR - that much is certain.
B. I don't think anyone in this thread said that MSU coaches put them up to it.
C. Nope, not at all. Ole Miss is in trouble, but a overwhelming majority of the amended NOA is based on Lewis' allegations.
D. It won't make it to court. The facts are all against them, and they'll recant.
E. Yeah, the NCAA can totally ignore outcomes from the legal system. That makes sense. Again, this won't make it to court - they'll recant their statements, which absolutely would have a huge impact to the amended NOA.
Ole Miss cheated - that happened, and they are going to be punished for it. But, some of the shite these kids said, which is easily disproved, should not be used. Unless you feel any statement (without any ability to prove it) should be able to be used against Alabama as well? Scary precedent you'd want to set right there.
A. Lewis and Jones lied regarding RR - that much is certain.
B. I don't think anyone in this thread said that MSU coaches put them up to it.
C. Nope, not at all. Ole Miss is in trouble, but a overwhelming majority of the amended NOA is based on Lewis' allegations.
D. It won't make it to court. The facts are all against them, and they'll recant.
E. Yeah, the NCAA can totally ignore outcomes from the legal system. That makes sense. Again, this won't make it to court - they'll recant their statements, which absolutely would have a huge impact to the amended NOA.
Ole Miss cheated - that happened, and they are going to be punished for it. But, some of the shite these kids said, which is easily disproved, should not be used. Unless you feel any statement (without any ability to prove it) should be able to be used against Alabama as well? Scary precedent you'd want to set right there.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:09 pm to RT1941
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What's done is done, and the NCAA investigation is done.
The NOA pretty much is the end of it, this is just OM's rebuttal to help with mitigating factors to lessen penalties. UA and USC didnt agree with their original NOA's and looked at what happened to them...
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:10 pm to Pickle_Weasel
You've got to be TampaReb.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 2:10 pm to Pickle_Weasel
quote:WTF are you talking about Pickle? The NCAA used secret fricking witness testimony to hammer Alabama in the Albert Means case. SECRET WITNESSES! How the hell can put up a defense when you don't even know who the frick's offering testimony against you?
Unless you feel any statement (without any ability to prove it) should be able to be used against Alabama as well? Scary precedent you'd want to set right there.
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