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re: North Carolina AD wants 40% increase in UNC's athletic revenues

Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:05 pm to
Lulz...

They make half the money that we will and the B1G will. That's why that conference won't survive.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42465 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:06 pm to
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People alleging that UNC and Duke are a "package deal" are simply not informed about realignment and looking at this realistically.


UNC/Duke will never be split up. You can take that to the bank.
Posted by WAOMrebears
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:06 pm to
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The ACC may not be viable long-term. If that happens, they will all be scrambling looking for new homes


How to you come to figure that considering all the Big East teams are wanting to come to the ACC? If a conference falls apart it's going to be the Big East, and most of them will be wanting in the ACC due to the fact that they are basketball schools. Granted, SEC will get some of them too.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:07 pm to
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UNC and UVA are too snoody for the SEC. They will go with the Big10. SEC will end up taking VT and NCSU to get into the VA and NC markets. Watch and see.


Better go tell UNC fans about this -- since at least 90% of them PREFER the SEC 10 to 1 over the B1G in reading their boards. They will NEVER support a move to the B1G.

Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3322 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:09 pm to
If the SEC pulls the coupe and gets UNC and Virginia, Slive will have not only won the realignment battle but he will have made Delaney bite the pillow. Academics and TV sets will be a huge boon to the conference.

Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:11 pm to
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UNC/Duke will never be split up. You can take that to the bank.



I think they are tied to the hip as well...
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:13 pm to
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UNC/Duke will never be split up. You can take that to the bank.


The day the ACC dies, they are split. PERIOD. There is zero possible way for them to stay together in expansion. So, they can split and both go make $50mil/yr in athletics revenue and still make a huge deal out of playing each other -- or they can stay together in the "new" Big East or ACC and make $5-15 or $20mil/yr -- and fade into obscurity. The decision here is obvious.

Texas/aTm would never be split either -- nor would Mizzou/Kansas -- and there was ZERO chance that Oklahoma/Nebraska could ever be broken up.

Oh, wait... Money talked and bullshite walked.
Posted by WAOMrebears
Member since Apr 2013
283 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:15 pm to
Hahaha if you're comparing any of those rivalries to Duke/UNC you are retarded.

The casual fan would not even know any of those schools were rivalries. Everyone knows the Duke/UNC rivalry
This post was edited on 4/16/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:15 pm to
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How to you come to figure that considering all the Big East teams are wanting to come to the ACC? If a conference falls apart it's going to be the Big East, and most of them will be wanting in the ACC due to the fact that they are basketball schools. Granted, SEC will get some of them too.


$20 mil < $50 mil. That's all you really need to know about expansion. The ACC only offers these teams HALF of what the B1G and SEC offers monetarily. Unless the ACC can right that ship IMMEDIATELY, they are about to start bleeding teams -- and once it's unstable, the markets are ripe for the picking.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:16 pm to
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UNC/Duke will never be split up. You can take that to the bank.

Maybe. But 5 years ago people would have called you crazy if you told them TAMU andUT would split up, Mizzou would be in the SEC and WVU in the Big12. Crazy times in college sports...
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:18 pm to
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Better go tell UNC fans about this -- since at least 90% of them PREFER the SEC 10 to 1 over the B1G in reading their boards. They will NEVER support a move to the B1G.

Unfortunately, their message board fans don't call the shots up there. Their academic elite administration does though.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:18 pm to
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Hahaha if you're comparing any of those rivalries to Duke/UNC you are retarded.

The casual fan would not even know any of those schools were rivalries. Everyone knows the Duke/UNC rivalry


Proof that you are an idiot.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42465 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:18 pm to
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The day the ACC dies, they are split. PERIOD.


Google their endowments. UNC/Duke aren't overly concerned with money.
Posted by WAOMrebears
Member since Apr 2013
283 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Unless the ACC can right that ship IMMEDIATELY, they are about to start bleeding teams


The ACC is ADDING teams. Yes, they lost Maryland, which was a huge surprise to everyone, but they added three schools just as good if not better. Money is not an issue for Duke or UNC. If UNC or Duke wants to increase their budget by 40%, they have the boosters to do it and will do it.
Posted by WAOMrebears
Member since Apr 2013
283 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:19 pm to
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UNC/Duke aren't overly concerned with money

Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:20 pm to
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Unfortunately, their message board fans don't call the shots up there. Their academic elite administration does though.


That administration still has to answer to those fans though. No way they can ever push through a decision that 90% of their fanbase ABSOLUTELY hates and would rally against.

There would be riots in Chapel Hill if they ended up in the B1G and NCState got the SEC invite...
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:20 pm to
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$20 mil < $50 mil. That's all you really need to know about expansion. The ACC only offers these teams HALF of what the B1G and SEC offers monetarily. Unless the ACC can right that ship IMMEDIATELY, they are about to start bleeding teams -- and once it's unstable, the markets are ripe for the picking.

Exactly. The Big East fell apart because of TV revenue. The same thing will happen to the ACC within the next 3 years. That's why you had FSU and Clemson fighting so hard not to have a monetary penalty for leaving the conference just last year. They know what's coming. 5 years from now there will be 4 super conferences, and the ACC is on the outside looking in.
Posted by winyahpercy
Georgetown, South Carolina
Member since Nov 2010
1383 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:21 pm to
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Better go tell UNC fans about this -- since at least 90% of them PREFER the SEC 10 to 1 over the B1G in reading their boards. They will NEVER support a move to the B1G.


I don't buy your stats.. (what's 90% preferring 10 to 1? 81.8%?) anyway, I don't think a survey of UNC alumni (rather than sidewalkers) would be that overwhelming. and I'm regularly surrounded by UNC alumni where I live. UNC alumni are very conscious of the academic reputation, which favors associating w/ the B10. faculty and BOR will favor the B10. Roy Williams will want the B10. (i think he was Delaney's roommate in college). Larry Fedora and the baseball coach will support the SEC.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
42465 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:22 pm to
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There would be riots in Chapel Hill if they ended up in the B1G and NCState got the SEC invite...




Take a chill pill.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 4/16/13 at 1:23 pm to
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Google their endowments. UNC/Duke aren't overly concerned with money

Completely irrelevant. Some of the biggest endowment schools in the country blow at football because their academic elite boosters could care less. Doesn't do you a bit of good to have a million sitting in your bank account if you can't access the funds, does it?
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