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re: Nick Saban's 50 Best Players
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:29 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:29 pm to RollTide1987
Decent list 1987. I know you didn't write it :)
I would maybe have included Andrew Whitworth, Marquise Hill and possibly even Devery.
Reed could easily be a lot higher. He was a prolific player.
I found it interesting that only 1 LSU player was ranked #1 at his position, and Bama players were almost universally ranked ahead of LSU players in each position grouping. Though it didn't shock me that they hadbit that way. It's what they believe :)
I would maybe have included Andrew Whitworth, Marquise Hill and possibly even Devery.
Reed could easily be a lot higher. He was a prolific player.
I found it interesting that only 1 LSU player was ranked #1 at his position, and Bama players were almost universally ranked ahead of LSU players in each position grouping. Though it didn't shock me that they hadbit that way. It's what they believe :)
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:30 pm to L S Usetheforce
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This isn't about the draft and the article says it
Good to know for the next Henry/booger debate.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:31 pm to L S Usetheforce
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Fournette
Relative to the OP, if he had played for Saban...
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:33 pm to lsufball19
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[Coop had 124 receptions] in 14 games
Even with the 2-game difference, Coop still averaged more receptions per game...
They were both great receivers...when guys are that close, it's easy to manipulate stats to put my/your favorite in a better light...LSU guys will favor Reed and Bama guys will favor Coop...same thing happens when discussing Henry and Fournette...
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:36 pm to MetryTyger
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would maybe have included Andrew Whitworth, Marquise Hill and possibly even Devery.
They weren't deserving.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:36 pm to lsupride87
yeah Reed had 14 reception for 239 yards and 2 TDs in the Sugar Bowl. That would have given him 108 receptions for 1979 yards and 11 TDs in 13 games. If you take the per game averages counting bowl game for Reed:
Reed
8.3 rpg
152.2 ypg
18.3 ypr
0.84 TDpg
Cooper
8.9 rpg
123.4 ypg
13.9 ypr
1.2 TDpg
LSU also had Michael Clayton that finished the year (including bowl stats) with 874 yards and 6 TDs. Alabama's second leading receiver in 2014 only had 504 yards and 4 TDs. Cooper also played in one more game and had two additional games counted in his official yearly totals
Reed
8.3 rpg
152.2 ypg
18.3 ypr
0.84 TDpg
Cooper
8.9 rpg
123.4 ypg
13.9 ypr
1.2 TDpg
LSU also had Michael Clayton that finished the year (including bowl stats) with 874 yards and 6 TDs. Alabama's second leading receiver in 2014 only had 504 yards and 4 TDs. Cooper also played in one more game and had two additional games counted in his official yearly totals
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:36 pm to OldPete
quote:No he didnt. Not even close in yards. 0.6 more in receptions though. Not sure why that matters though
Even with the 2-game difference, Coop still averaged more receptions per game...
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:42 pm to cajunbama
1. College performance under Saban (NOTE: players who reached peak performance after Saban left Michigan State or LSU — ex. Charles Rogers, LaRon Landry and Dwayne Bowe — do not qualify)
2. Big-game moments/winning pedigree
3. All-conference and All-American recognition
4. Trophies and awards
5. NFL draft position
#5 clearly states they used NFL draft position as criteria.
2. Big-game moments/winning pedigree
3. All-conference and All-American recognition
4. Trophies and awards
5. NFL draft position
#5 clearly states they used NFL draft position as criteria.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:47 pm to Spinthemusic
Tell the guy I was responding to.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:50 pm to lsupride87
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Even with the 2-game difference, Coop still averaged more receptions per game...
No he didnt. Not even close in yards. 0.6 more in receptions though. Not sure why that matters though
Not sure what you're arguing here, all I mentioned in my post is that Coop still averaged more receptions per game so I'm puzzled why you said he didn't. Last time I checked, 8.9 > 8.3, so yes, Coop averaged more receptions per game...
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:50 pm to cajunbama
I'd probably have better results talking to a blind deaf mute than trying to talk to some of these LSU fans.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:51 pm to OldPete
quote:I just dont understand the point of more receptions per game when he had 30 yards less a game
all I mentioned in my post is that Coop still averaged more receptions per game so I'm puzzled why you said he didn't. Last time I checked, 8.9 > 8.3, so yes, Coop averaged more receptions per game...
That isnt a good thing for CoopPosted on 3/15/16 at 2:53 pm to Spinthemusic
True, true.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:55 pm to lsupride87
How many rings did Reed win ? Winning pedigree
Where did Reed go in the draft? NFL draft position
Where did Reed go in the draft? NFL draft position
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:56 pm to lsupride87
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That isnt a good thing for Coop
Sure it is...he got 124 receptions in one season and that's currently the single season SEC record. How can that be bad?
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
Julio is an NFL megastar, Cooper is on his way. Reed never did anything.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:58 pm to Spinthemusic
quote:Reed took a team coming off a 3-8 season, and took them to their first SEC titles in over 15 years as well as over 293 yards to win them their first Sugar Bowl in over 20 years
How many rings did Reed win ? Winning pedigree
quote:That is their last reason for ranking. I am fine with Reed being right behind Coop. But 1 and then 9 is a joke.
Where did Reed go in the draft? NFL draft position
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:58 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:This has zero to do with the NFL. Good try though
Julio is an NFL megastar, Cooper is on his way. Reed never did anything.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
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I am fine with Reed being right behind Coop. But 1 and then 9 is a joke.
I can agree with you there...I think Coop should be a little lower than 1 and I think Reed should be a little higher than 9...
Posted on 3/15/16 at 3:02 pm to lsupride87
I know. I just wanted to show you how much better receivers Julio and Coop are than Reed was. 
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