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re: More rushing yards next year: Henry or Fournette?

Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:57 am to
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What I've gathered from this thread and others like it is that the Alabama contingent here will always assume their guy is better.



Why would anyone assume differently based on what we know in this case?

That's a mighty hypocritical statement. What I've gathered is that 3 straight losses, including two whippings, has clouded your judgment
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:01 am to
The hypocrisy in those kind of statements is mind blowing. When guys are just about even "talent" wise, of course you are going to give your guy the edge. Everyone does it.

Why not?
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:02 am
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:03 am to
I think it'll be 5'1" 685 pound Fullback
Joe-Bob Reddenick of Tadpole Junction, ala.

After being turned down by the coach in tuscaloosa, he was a walk-on last year at Vanderbilt and has since received an academic scholarship, majoring in Spittoon Studies.

Joe-Bob benches 1000 cans of Skoal and runs a
22.0 flat 40.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:03 am to
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That's a mighty hypocritical statement.


Meh, I'm not surprised by anything y'all post here anymore.

I was cleaning out my bookmarks and found one that was trying to argue Ingram was a better Heisman winner than Bo Jackson.

I expect in a few months you'll be arguing a totally different Alabama running back is better than Fournette because he has 0.1 ypc more than LF on a quarter of the carries.
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:06 am to
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This based on his 8 carries against a poor OU Defense ? If you watched him, you have to admit he's pretty damned scary. Kid's got power and a motor.
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Look at what the OU Defense gave up against those great RBs (household names) from TX, Baylor, ND and OSU.
Henry is still an unknown right now. But he had a year to learn his blocking schemes, the offense and he practiced against a damn good defense all of last year. He will be a great RB for Bama, Yeldon will be the #1 and depending on if Drake can check his attitude it'll be a fight betwn Drake/Henry.

Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:06 am to
Well again, this is the rant. Bringing up random comments from idiotic posters from any fanbase is pretty easy and also a little foolish. And again pretty hypocritical considering your team's fans also post similarly idiotic things. Maybe not vandy cause they only have like three but the point remains.
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:07 am to
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I think it'll be 5'1" 685 pound Fullback
Joe-Bob Reddenick of Tadpole Junction, ala.

After being turned down by the coach in tuscaloosa, he was a walk-on last year at Vanderbilt and has since received an academic scholarship, majoring in Spittoon Studies.

Joe-Bob benches 1000 cans of Skoal and runs a
22.0 flat 40.



We don't do Spittoon Studies. How declasse. Our Cuspidor Studies department would absolutely blanche at the suggestion that they cover anything so plebeian as "spittoons."
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:08 am to
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Meh, I'm not surprised by anything y'all post here anymore.


We can't all be valuable additions to the forum like you
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:13 am to
Henry will get more.

Fournette will only see 30-35% or so of the carries I think. Magee is very good and Hilliard will get a lot of short yardage spots.

Drake is clearly not the guy for Bama. He has the talent, but fumbles, can't block, and seems to not care.

Yeldon is very good, but doesn't have the power like Henry. I bet Henry gets 40-50 more carries than LF next year.



All that being said, LF is going to be a fricking monster when he catches his stride in college ball. He is as can't miss, barring injury, at the RB position I've seen since Adrian Peterson. He isn't going to be AP/AD good(who is?), but he has the size, speed, character and intelligence to be something special.

People forget he is 225 lbs and won the state championship in the 100m. He averaged like 10 yards a carry in the best football district in arguably the most talent dense state in America. Made other D1 prospects look like blind school boys. And unlike a lot of top prospects these days, he has his head on straight. Very smart, very driven, and a very good person/teammate.

SEC has some absurd RB talent, that is for sure.

ETA:

Does Henry not remind people of Brandon Jacobs but a tad smaller and faster? I can't think of any other RBs his size that were so good in recent memory. I am dreading playing him.

This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:16 am
Posted by randomways
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:16 am to
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Very smart


You know -- and I'm not knocking LF specifically here, but he's the topic at hand and I've seen some of the things he's written -- I wish these high school kids would either learn to express themselves more grammatically or just stay off social media. I have no doubt that plenty of them are perfectly intelligent, but they sound like fricking morons.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:17 am to
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All that being said, LF is going to be a fricking monster when he catches his stride in college ball. He is as can't miss, barring injury, at the RB position I've seen since Adrian Peterson. He isn't going to be AP/AD good(who is?), but he has the size, speed, character and intelligence to be something special.

People forget he is 225 lbs and won the state championship in the 100m. He averaged like 10 yards a carry in the best football district in arguably the most talent dense state in America. Made other D1 prospects look like blind school boys. And unlike a lot of top prospects these days, he has his head on straight. Very smart, very driven, and a very good person/teammate.


Get this nonsense outta here, he's only played against high schoolers and is absolutely unproven.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:19 am to
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You know -- and I'm not knocking LF specifically here, but he's the topic at hand and I've seen some of the things he's written -- I wish these high school kids would either learn to express themselves more grammatically or just stay off social media. I have no doubt that plenty of them are perfectly intelligent, but they sound like fricking morons.




relatively smart compared to most stud HS athletes I guess. But he did have very good grades at a private school. He also cares about his studies. Talks about his major and how important it is for him to get a degree, etc.

I think a lot of social media grammar is just for show. I have smart friends that say "u" instead of "you" and crap like that. Bothers me, but whatever.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:19 am to
Both

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All that being said, LF is going to be a fricking monster when he catches his stride in college ball. He is as can't miss, barring injury, at the RB position I've seen since Adrian Peterson. He isn't going to be AP/AD good(who is?), but he has the size, speed, character and intelligence to be something special.

People forget he is 225 lbs and won the state championship in the 100m. He averaged like 10 yards a carry in the best football district in arguably the most talent dense state in America. Made other D1 prospects look like blind school boys. And unlike a lot of top prospects these days, he has his head on straight. Very smart, very driven, and a very good person/teammate.


and this comment

quote:

he's only played against high schoolers and is absolutely unproven.


are correct.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:21 am to
I agree he is unproven. Didn't want to insinuate otherwise. But if we were betting on "futures", he is my "stone cold lock of the year" to be very good
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 11:21 am
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:24 am to
I agree with you completely.
Posted by thatdude1985
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:24 am to
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Im talking offseason hype. Ware had a big game against aTm in the cotton bowl and LSU fans talked him up all offseason. Just pointing out similarity.

Also, ware had pretty good hands and made some nice catches for a rb


Yeah that's literally the only comparison you can hold on DH. There is nobody else in CFB like Derrick Henry....I can assure you of that.
Posted by thatdude1985
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:25 am to
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Sure, he fumbled too much last year, but when he held on to the ball, the guy would straight up burn defenses every time he got the ball, and was much more physical than I originally thought. Just sayin', the guy has some SERIOUS talent if he can hold on to the ball.


I say the same about Yeldon.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:26 am to
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All that being said, LF is going to be a fricking monster when he catches his stride in college ball. He is as can't miss, barring injury, at the RB position I've seen since Adrian Peterson. He isn't going to be AP/AD good(who is?), but he has the size, speed, character and intelligence to be something special. People forget he is 225 lbs and won the state championship in the 100m. He averaged like 10 yards a carry in the best football district in arguably the most talent dense state in America. Made other D1 prospects look like blind school boys. And unlike a lot of top prospects these days, he has his head on straight. Very smart, very driven, and a very good person/teammate.


All correct

quote:

he's only played against high schoolers and is absolutely unproven.


Also correct. But to Wade the two are mutually exclusive. It's the us against the world mentality.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:27 am to
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I'm not leaning on that.

But it's ridiculous that a guy can get 15 yards downfield in a 1 hand touch game, against the best recruits in the country.

If you wanna argue that Derrick Henry is better because he's bigger, keep beating that drum.


Your drum is 7 on 7 in shorts.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:27 am to
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Does Henry not remind people of Brandon Jacobs but a tad smaller and faster? I can't think of any other RBs his size that were so good in recent memory. I am dreading playing him.


From a physical stand point the only guy that comes to mind is Eddie George
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