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re: Matt Leinart settles debate of best team ever
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:04 pm to Mulkey Man
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:04 pm to Mulkey Man
2001 miami being considered one of the best teams of all time is a joke. The only reason people even entertain the notion is because of what many of their players would go on to do at the next level after leaving Miami. "oh bro do you even know how many NFL studs were on that team dude!?!?" Ok yeah but like what does willis mcgahee, jonathan vilma, frank gore, and sean taylor being NFL stars have to do with 2001 miami considering those guys wer eall just freshmen at the time?
Now, that's not to say they weren't impressive. They were in the big east whihc is whatever, and they beat up on people as you'd expect. There was a funky 11 point win over 4 loss Boston colelge and a 2 point win over VT. They won the title game over a nebraska team many said shouldn't have even been there after etting absolutely demolished in their championship game 1 game before.
Great team? Yes of course. Great roster? Maybe th best ever. But best team ever? Hardly. Not even close.
Now, that's not to say they weren't impressive. They were in the big east whihc is whatever, and they beat up on people as you'd expect. There was a funky 11 point win over 4 loss Boston colelge and a 2 point win over VT. They won the title game over a nebraska team many said shouldn't have even been there after etting absolutely demolished in their championship game 1 game before.
Great team? Yes of course. Great roster? Maybe th best ever. But best team ever? Hardly. Not even close.
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:05 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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2020 Bama beat 5 teams who finished CFP top 10.
This is true.
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Texas A&M
Florida
Georgia
2019 LSU defeated:
Clemson
Oklahoma
Florida
Georgia
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:10 pm to RollTide1987
So, if that's the case as you claim, then how can you justifiably judge that team against other good teams in other seasons?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:11 pm to Tornado Alley
You wreak of gayness
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:13 pm to Mulkey Man
Anyone that tries to dispute #1 is simply insecure and lying to themselves
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:17 pm to Boodis Man
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1995 Nebraska is the most dominant team in history...even more dominant that 2019 LSU.
That Nebraska defense would get steam rolled by the 2109 LSU offense so this is comical
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:17 pm to Tuscaloosa
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It’s a real shame we couldn’t load our schedule up with the real big dogs like Northwestern State, Utah State, Vanderbilt, and Georgia Southern.
Averaged the same number of wins your champ game opponent averaged.
The team y’all said didn’t deserve to be in playoffs. 
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:18 pm to Darindawg
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then how can you justifiably judge that team against other good teams in other seasons
Because we're fans and fans love "what-if" questions. However, those questions are inherently flawed as a team like 2019 LSU played in a different era compared to 1971 or even 1995 Nebraska. The rules of the game were different, the rules surrounding recruiting were different, the way schools recruited was different, and the way schools approached the game were different.
However, what we can do is look at the competition those three schools played against, the competition their opponents played against, and the way they all performed relative to their competition, and say that Team A had a more dominant season than Team B.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:20 pm to LSUstephen17
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That Nebraska defense would get steam rolled by the 2109 LSU offense so this is comical
That Nebraska defense held the fun 'n gun offense of Steve Spurrier, arguably the most dynamic one he's ever had, to just 269 yards of total offense.
That '95 Nebraska defense was no slouch. They allowed just 14.5 points per game and many of the points scored on Nebraska that year were against their back-ups.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:25 pm to RollTide1987
I think we're actually agreeing with each other. We CAN look at a team and see how dominant they were, but again, what does that mean compared to other seasons and the competition that other teams played. What if even 2 teams that Bama beat in 2020 could have mopped the floor with every single ranked team that LSU 2019 team beat? Wouldn't that mean then that the Bama team was the best? Again, we'll never know. And it would take God speaking to LSU fans from the burning bush to convince them that LSU 2019 wasn't the best. I say that was a good team, but IMHO they had the best passing game, by a close margin over the Miami team, but that Nebraska team was a monstrous team. Line them up against LSU defense and see what would have happened. I think UGA's 2021 had the best D I've ever seen in my lifetime but last season's O was better.
In my humble opinion, the 2 best teams OVERALL from top to bottom as far as having no weaknesses was the 2020 Bama and the 2022 UGA teams. Of course, get ready for the LSU fans to stone me for this post.
In my humble opinion, the 2 best teams OVERALL from top to bottom as far as having no weaknesses was the 2020 Bama and the 2022 UGA teams. Of course, get ready for the LSU fans to stone me for this post.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:28 pm to LSUstephen17
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That Nebraska defense would get steam rolled by the 2109 LSU offense so this is comical
a team from 2019 would beat a team from 1995....thank you captain obvious.
that doesn't make lsu more dominant than they were that season,
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:28 pm to RollTide1987
Wait, they’re overrated because a ton of their players went on to become NFL stars?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:29 pm to dstone12
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Averaged the same number of wins your champ game opponent averaged.
Dude just stop trying to compare Northwestern St, GSU, Utah St, and Vandy to Ohio State.
It’s fricking stupid and you’re making yourself look retarded.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:32 pm to ChiGator
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Wait, they’re overrated because a ton of their players went on to become NFL stars?
Yes, because that's the main reason why people argue them as the greatest team in college football history. Because their roster was so deep. However, that being said, they didn't play like the greatest team of all-time and struggled here and there during their championship run. That doesn't mean they weren't a great team. However, saying they're the GOAT simply because they had all of those future NFL stars is a bad argument IMHO.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:35 pm to GetmorewithLes
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Best team ever... to not win the damn trophy!
Do you mean 2003 USC?
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:35 pm to RollTide1987
I mean I think these arguments are extremely subjective to begin with. NFL talent on a roster is one of the only things tangible you can argue.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:38 pm to ChiGator
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I mean I think these arguments are extremely subjective to begin with. NFL talent on a roster is one of the only things tangible you can argue.
Got to be one of many factors. Alabama has had some years where their future NFL rostered players was immense but they didn’t even win the division like 2013.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:40 pm to ChiGator
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NFL talent on a roster is one of the only things tangible you can argue.
I disagree. You can look at their competition and how they played against it. When arguing greatest team you look at how they competed and played as a team. The NFL talent is something that shouldn't factor into it at all.
I have no problem with people saying that 2001 Miami was the most talented team in college football history. But that doesn't mean they were the greatest.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:40 pm to Tornado Alley
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College football has been played for 153 years but the best and most dominant teams of all time all come from the past 28. Got it.
Sure, the game has advanced and take any team from 10 years ago and they would have trouble with modern passing game. Baseball and basketball are essentially the same. Football today is completely different than it was 10 years ago.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/11/23 at 3:44 pm to Frac the world
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It’s fricking stupid and you’re making yourself look retarded.
Okay. Then Are you trying to convince us (even though bama posters weren’t convinced and laughed at ND and OSU being in the cfp) that OSU was a good champ caliber team? Y’all already disparaged the sec teams that lacked even 60 players as pussies and incompetent. So that’s a ding on your own schedule, right there. Use your damn head, son.
Or was the cfp in a huge quandary trying to shoehorn a five win team that needed relaxed rules to get them in?
Are you saying that a team that couldn’t even begin the season on time with five wins was as good as Clemson?
Because if you did, you’d look fricking stupid and retarded . But that’s you, so go ahead.
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