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Many schools have been gypped out of national titles, but 1983 Auburn was one of the worst
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:25 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:25 pm
Shiloh Carder shares that Miami, the eventual champion, was #5 entering their game vs. #1 Nebraska, who was heavily favored. Miami came from nowhere that '83 season. Miami was a nothing program.
The #5 Hurricanes defeated the #1 Cornhuskers, 31-30, in the Orange Bowl. But, here's the kicker:
#2 Texas lost to #7 Georgia in the Cotton Bowl and #4 Illinois lost to un-ranked UCLA in the Rose Bowl. #5 Miami leapfrogged over #3 AUBURN (who had beaten Michigan in the Sugar Bowl), which caused a fury of complaints from both AUBURN and the SEC.
The Tigers had beaten #4 Georgia, #5 Florida, #7 Maryland, #8 Michigan and #19 Alabama during the season. Miami had only beaten two ranked teams -- #13 Notre Dame and #12 West Virginia -- before their Orange Bowl win.
AUBURN was gypped out of a title here, imo.
The #5 Hurricanes defeated the #1 Cornhuskers, 31-30, in the Orange Bowl. But, here's the kicker:
#2 Texas lost to #7 Georgia in the Cotton Bowl and #4 Illinois lost to un-ranked UCLA in the Rose Bowl. #5 Miami leapfrogged over #3 AUBURN (who had beaten Michigan in the Sugar Bowl), which caused a fury of complaints from both AUBURN and the SEC.
The Tigers had beaten #4 Georgia, #5 Florida, #7 Maryland, #8 Michigan and #19 Alabama during the season. Miami had only beaten two ranked teams -- #13 Notre Dame and #12 West Virginia -- before their Orange Bowl win.
AUBURN was gypped out of a title here, imo.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 6:33 pm
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:31 pm to JetDawg
quote:We need to claim it yesterday.
AUBURN was gypped out of a title here, imo.
1913,1914,1983,1993,2004 - All national championships
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:34 pm to JetDawg
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"Would you stop? Why must you always do this? I'm an LSU fan and don't like you." -spslayto (LSU_Stephen)
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:35 pm to JetDawg
Probably should mention that #2 Texas beat Auburn and their only loss was 10-9 to Georgia in the bowl game.
Not to mention Miami's win over Nebraska was a big deal.. they were undefeated and had beaten the holy frick out of most of their opponents.
Auburn was probably lucky to be ranked #3. Texas should have been ranked over them.
Not to mention Miami's win over Nebraska was a big deal.. they were undefeated and had beaten the holy frick out of most of their opponents.
Auburn was probably lucky to be ranked #3. Texas should have been ranked over them.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:35 pm to JetDawg
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The Tigers had beaten #4 Georgia, #5 Florida, #7 Maryland, #8 Michigan and #19 Alabama during the season. Miami had only beaten two ranked teams -- #13 Notre Dame and #12 West Virginia -- before their Orange Bowl win.
Yes.
Also, Miami’s lone loss was to #5 Florida in blowout fashion. 25-3. Auburn beat that same Gators squad, 28-21.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:36 pm to ChexMix
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1913,1914,1983,1993,2004
Yes. If we claimed them like other schools we'd have 6. Damn respectable for the non-state school.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:40 pm to JetDawg
False, 83 Auburn got arse pounded by Texas in what was the biggest home non-conference game in its history up to that point:
The AP and UPI agree.
The AP and UPI agree.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:41 pm to Foy
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Yes. If we claimed them like other schools we'd have 6.
Who in the SEC claims a national title for a season in the last 50 years when they didn't win the AP, Coaches or UPI title?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:43 pm to JetDawg
It didn't help that the Sugar Bowl was boring and on at the same time as the Orange Bowl classic (which NBC advertised as "the national title game").
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:44 pm to Killean
quote:tell me you werent born then without telling me you werent born then
Auburn was probably lucky to be ranked #3.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:46 pm to ChexMix
I get it.. the actual numbers can't help your argument so you have to try and say something you think is witty.
Auburn definitely should have been behind Texas who ended up ranked #4.
Auburn definitely should have been behind Texas who ended up ranked #4.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:46 pm to Killean
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Probably should mention that #2 Texas beat Auburn and their only loss was 10-9 to Georgia in the bowl game.
You can then mention that Auburn beat that same Georgia team.
Auburn, Miami, Nebraska, Georgia, and Texas were all 1-loss teams. All had a claim to make, but Auburn played BY FAR the toughest schedule of that Final Top 5.
If you look at the Final Top 8 teams…
Auburn was 3-1 against them
Georgia was 2-1 against them
Miami was 1-1 against them
Texas was 1-1 against them
Nebraska was 0-1 against them
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:47 pm to JetDawg
Ohio State in 2007.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:48 pm to ChexMix
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We need to claim it yesterday.
No. Like Arky in 1964… we were screwed but did not win the trophy. You can’t claim a trophy you didn’t win.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Who in the SEC claims a national title for a season in the last 50 years when they didn't win the AP, Coaches or UPI title?
Why 50 years? The AP was around in 1936.
Bama claims 1941 which is absolutely laughable.
Georgia claims 1942.
Ole Miss claims 1963.
Arkansas claims 1964.
Those are the only ones I can think of that are completely bogus. Auburn doesn’t want to join this group.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:53 pm to JetDawg
Aubs would have won had they just scored ONE damn touchdown against Meeechigan that night in the Sugar Bowl. I agree though, but dayyyummm Auburn, one TD!
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:54 pm to AUTiger789
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Why 50 years? The AP was around in 1936.
Because the recognition of titles that weren't from one of the 3 major selectors became basically ironclad around the 1970s. There are quite a few pre 1970 across the country (as you pointed out). There very few if any after 1980. The post said Auburn should claim 3 of them.
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Bama claims 1941 which is absolutely laughable.
It's embarrassing.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:55 pm to JetDawg
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AUBURN was gypped out of a title here, imo.
You don't seem to understand how opinion polls work
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:57 pm to NawFoo
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"Would you stop? Why must you always do this? I'm an LSU fan and don't like you." -spslayto (LSU_Stephen)
You must be on some serious fentanyl-laced crack. You got the wrong dude, dude.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:57 pm to JetDawg
Auburn's 1983 snub was very similar to Alabama's 1977 snub in that the pollsters were overly enamored with the team that knocked off the #1 team in their bowl game.
Both 1983 Auburn and 1977 Alabama lost to really good teams very early in the season to Texas and @ Nebraska respectively before going on to win out the rest of the season.
1983 Auburn beat some very good teams and entered the Sugar Bowl ranked #3 and beat Michigan 9-7 with #1 and #2 losing their bowl games. The pollsters got caught up in the moment with #5 Miami's win over #1 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl and leapfrogged them all the way to #1.
As bad as Auburn's snub in 1983 was, 1977 Alabama's was arguably even worse. Alabama lost @ Nebraska 24-17 the second week of the season before winning out the regular season including a win on the road against #1 USC. Worst of all eventual national champion Notre Dame's only loss that year cane against the same 5-6 Ole Miss team Alabama beat 34-13 just two weeks earlier. #3 Alabama went on to beat Ohio State 35-6 in the Sugar Bowl while the #2 team lost their bowl game. Just as with 1983 Auburn, the pollsters were enamored with #5 Notre Dame's bowl win over #1 Texas and leapfrogged them over Alabama despite Alabama's blowout Sugar Bowl win and despite Alabama's blow out win against the same Ole Miss team that beat Notre Dame earlier that year. The 1977 snub to me was even worse than the 1966 snub given the fact that Notre Dame lost to a 5-6 team that Alabama had beaten 34-13 earlier that same season.
Both 1983 Auburn and 1977 Alabama lost to really good teams very early in the season to Texas and @ Nebraska respectively before going on to win out the rest of the season.
1983 Auburn beat some very good teams and entered the Sugar Bowl ranked #3 and beat Michigan 9-7 with #1 and #2 losing their bowl games. The pollsters got caught up in the moment with #5 Miami's win over #1 Nebraska in the Orange Bowl and leapfrogged them all the way to #1.
As bad as Auburn's snub in 1983 was, 1977 Alabama's was arguably even worse. Alabama lost @ Nebraska 24-17 the second week of the season before winning out the regular season including a win on the road against #1 USC. Worst of all eventual national champion Notre Dame's only loss that year cane against the same 5-6 Ole Miss team Alabama beat 34-13 just two weeks earlier. #3 Alabama went on to beat Ohio State 35-6 in the Sugar Bowl while the #2 team lost their bowl game. Just as with 1983 Auburn, the pollsters were enamored with #5 Notre Dame's bowl win over #1 Texas and leapfrogged them over Alabama despite Alabama's blowout Sugar Bowl win and despite Alabama's blow out win against the same Ole Miss team that beat Notre Dame earlier that year. The 1977 snub to me was even worse than the 1966 snub given the fact that Notre Dame lost to a 5-6 team that Alabama had beaten 34-13 earlier that same season.
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