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re: LSU only SEC school that raises more donations for athletics than for academics
Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:20 pm to Bench McElroy
Sweet sassy, Florida and Aggy are the Big 2
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:23 pm to BroadwayJoe12
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Except the newest and most spectacular buildings at UA don't belong to athletics, UA is constantly upgrading, and building new buildings for academics.
and so has LSU
Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:28 pm to fareplay
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We could tell based on the average poster in Rant
Posted on 10/31/16 at 12:57 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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And yet, your library still leaks.
I'll admit that there are lots of buildings on campus in horrible condition, but to equate the funding of athletics to the library leaking is a bit of a stretch. There is a reason that basements aren't a common construction practice in South Louisiana (and it has nothing to do with football).
This article seems to show where the real problem is in the process to receive funding for the deferred maintenance that is required across campus. Of course it would be nice if everyone who donates to TAF would also match their donation to pay for repairs/maintenance of campus buildings, but when the joint legislative capital outlay committee repeatedly ignores the LSU Board of Regents requests for maintenance funds, you can't blame football....
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:03 pm to LSUgoTIGER
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when the joint legislative capital outlay committee repeatedly ignores the LSU Board of Regents requests for maintenance funds, you can't blame football....
Dude, get over it, no body's blaming football for anything. They're blaming idiots in Louisiana who care more about entertainment than education.
The graph points out that LSU is the only school in the SEC that gets more donations to the athletic fund than their academic fund. That is an embarrassing travesty.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:17 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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Our university academic fund raising is objectively terrible. I haven't received a mailer/phone call from LSU in almost 10 years.
My wife receives them all the time from her Alma mater, probably every month. Even when we move they find her.
Anecdotal, but I've heard the same from other grads. If you don't make constant contact it is hard to raise money.
I don't think i've received a single phone call or letter from LSU asking for donations. I regularly receive phone calls from my undergrad to talk about academic and athletic donations. As such, I donate far more to my undergrad.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:29 pm to Bench McElroy
Louisianians as a whole are not that enamored of an educated populace. Our public schools suck as a whole and have been for generations. Our citizens don't want to pay all that much in taxes fr the local public schools(and then bitch about the stupid students and teachers). The legislators as a whole don't really care that the school is going broke. Just so long as they can go back to their local districts and convince them that they have been fighting against waste and fraud and not raise their property taxes or lower the homestead exemption.
However, while we on this board from LSU want to denigrate TAMU and UF, they have the highest level of academic donations from their alumni and are considered to be top notch universities. Florida has long been considered a very good academic institution. Coincidence?
If LSU could lower it's tuition and stay solvent, I would not care how the school did in athletics...right now it seems that athletics is actually helping to keep the school stay afloat.
I am a 6%
However, while we on this board from LSU want to denigrate TAMU and UF, they have the highest level of academic donations from their alumni and are considered to be top notch universities. Florida has long been considered a very good academic institution. Coincidence?
If LSU could lower it's tuition and stay solvent, I would not care how the school did in athletics...right now it seems that athletics is actually helping to keep the school stay afloat.
I am a 6%
Posted on 10/31/16 at 1:56 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The graph points out that LSU is the only school in the SEC that gets more donations to the athletic fund than their academic fund. That is an embarrassing travesty.
The article is a huge embarrassment for LSU for sure, but really it's an indictment of all of southern culture. We're always seeing some bleeding heart whining about how much the football coach gets paid compared to the school president (or something along those lines), but I think most of us on here are savvy enough to understand that argument is weak. Having a successful and well funded athletic program works wonders for SEC schools, resulting in enormous financial windfalls and increased applicant pools. It's kind of a fricked up model, but it works in the South. So the problem isn't really the schools, it's the alumns and fans who don't give enough shits about the actual education side of things to adequately fund it.
And on top of citizens with misplaced priorities, in states like Alabama and Louisiana you have to deal with utterly dysfunctional local governments mismanaging funds and priorities. A state like Louisiana shouldn't be broke. You've got a truly international arts, entertainment, and culinary tourist destination in NO, its shipping industry, fishing industry, and all of that oil. But it can fund the state's flagship university? That is fricked up and there's no way around it.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:06 pm to thatthang
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The article is a huge embarrassment for LSU for sure, but really it's an indictment of all of southern culture. We're always seeing some bleeding heart whining about how much the football coach gets paid compared to the school president (or something along those lines), but I think most of us on here are savvy enough to understand that argument is weak. Having a successful and well funded athletic program works wonders for SEC schools, resulting in enormous financial windfalls and increased applicant pools. It's kind of a fricked up model, but it works in the South. So the problem isn't really the schools, it's the alumns and fans who don't give enough shits about the actual education side of things to adequately fund it.
And on top of citizens with misplaced priorities, in states like Alabama and Louisiana you have to deal with utterly dysfunctional local governments mismanaging funds and priorities. A state like Louisiana shouldn't be broke. You've got a truly international arts, entertainment, and culinary tourist destination in NO, its shipping industry, fishing industry, and all of that oil. But it can fund the state's flagship university? That is fricked up and there's no way around it.
I'm going to have to agree with everything you posted here.
So many people in the South LOVE their college football teams but HATE their colleges. I've never understood this mentality.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:07 pm to thatthang
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But it can fund the state's flagship university? That is fricked up and there's no way around it.
There's like 10 other 4 year universities to fund though.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:17 pm to c on z
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There's like 10 other 4 year universities to fund though.
Absolutely- they should all be funded adequately.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:22 pm to thatthang
No, at least half need to be closed.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:33 pm to thatthang
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A state like Louisiana shouldn't be broke. You've got a truly international arts, entertainment, and culinary tourist destination in NO, its shipping industry, fishing industry, and all of that oil.
How does a state get funding from those things you mentioned without taxing them? There's your problem.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:36 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Actually they aren't. Read the article
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Notably, the University of Alabama -- LSU's archrival -- does not disclose financial information for any university or athletic fundraising. Nonprofit organizations like foundations are generally required to fill out tax forms which disclose contributions, assets and salaries. But Alabama does not do so, citing its affiliation with a governmental entity. The school also refused to comply with a public-records request and did not respond to questions from The Advocate.
reading must be hard for you
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:45 pm to crazycubes
The article does not mention how much athletics acts as a proxy for academics at LSU. Go see how much $$ athletics has given to academics in the past 6 years. It is MILLIONS of dollars.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:54 pm to crazycubes
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reading must be hard for you
Reading must be even harder for employees of the Advocate, since the information they requested is all freely available on the UA website.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 2:56 pm to FreddieMac
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The article does not mention how much athletics acts as a proxy for academics at LSU. Go see how much $$ athletics has given to academics in the past 6 years. It is MILLIONS of dollars.
its negligible as far as the difference at LSU and in comparison to the giving of everyone else
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:21 pm to cornhat
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The point of the article is that academics are not anywhere near a priority to LSU fans as athletics is.
I'm probably guilty of that, but I didn't attend LSU like most of my friends growing up did. I decided to go out of state but I had some great opportunities coming out of high school. I think most people realize LSU will never be an Ivy League education, so they focus on what LSU is best at.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:28 pm to TigahJay
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I think most people realize LSU will never be an Ivy League education, so they focus on what LSU is best at.
That doesn't have anything to do with why LSU grads donate so little to the university. There are NO Ivy league schools in the SEC, their students ALL focus on what their universities are best at. The difference is that they actually give back to the academic side while LSU grads don't.
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:32 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, what's stupid is that Louisianans care more about entertainment than education.
Athletics doesn't give NEARLY as much to academics than other schools raise for their academic endowments. It's a travesty that shouldn't be underplayed.
ETA: To the down voter, I'm sorry you hate the actual university, but without it there would be no Tiger Athletics.
How much do you donate to the a academic side of LSU per year?
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