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re: Lewis will possibly have to speak against MSU to keep immunity

Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:28 pm to
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So Ole Miss paid him but he decided to go to Miss St instead why???


If you read the NCAA response, you'll see that it was a con job the whole time. Lewis said he never had any intention of going to OM, he just saw a chance to grab 10 large and took it.

He's a witness who's been granted immunity in exchange for testimony and his information has been corroborated by other evidence, but he shouldn't be viewed as a saint because he most certainly isn't one.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Furthermore, the transcripts are from the "Ole miss response " yet you claim it isn't an Ole Miss source. You dumb bro.



The transcripts are from the actual interviews. Not the responses.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:29 pm to
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The transcripts are from the actual interviews. Not the responses.

none of you seem to want to address these confidential transcripts that Ole Miss journalists seem to have and why/how they have them. I'd seriously love an honest answer to that or at least an attempt at an explanation.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:29 pm to
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NCAA is pissed about how the Miami investigation went down. They want to use Ole Miss as an example to show they still have power. They don't care how they get it, they want Ole Miss to be hit with a 2 year bowl ban. I honestly hate all of this for Lewis. It is pretty clear he has become a victim in all of this. I don't think Lewis ever thought it would evolve into this. The person that pushed Lewis into the middle of this investigation should have his name out. I think Lewis will probably be an example to not talk to the NCAA.



He wasn't pushed, he was pulled. The NCAA had enough to punish him before he was ever approached for interview, otherwise there would have been no reason of, or benefit from, offering immunity.

They investigated OM, found evidence that LL had been paid, then approached him to bolster their case. This isn't rocket science.




Anyone who legitimately believes Mullen would willingly put his player in front of the NCAA is an idiot, especially if they believe State also paid him.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:31 pm to
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none of you seem to want to address these confidential transcripts that Ole Miss journalists seem to have and why/how they have them. I'd seriously love an honest answer to that or at least an attempt at an explanation.


They've gotten very good at ignoring inconvenient items.

Note how they keep harping on Lewis' credibility without using a single word to explain Barney's conversation with the booster about the meeting and the money.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Note how they keep harping on Lewis' credibility without using a single word to explain Barney's conversation with the booster about the meeting and the money.

My honest opinion: They know they're fricked but will feel vindicated somewhat if State is taken down with them. I guess I get that, but it's not like anyone would think less of them if they came out and said it.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64465 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:39 pm to
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My honest opinion: They know they're fricked but will feel vindicated somewhat if State is taken down with them. I guess I get that, but it's not like anyone would think less of them if they came out and said it.





Ole miss fans have said several times that we're fricked. We just lost our head coach that turned our program around as well as self-imposed a frick ton of scholarship reductions and a bowl ban. Hell...why do you even need Ole Miss fans to say that we're fricked.

Of course we're fricked. We're just trying to say that we aren't nearly as fricked as the fricktards on this site say.



ETA: in case you need to told again by an OM fan(me). Yes...we(Ole Miss) are fricked for a bit.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64511 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:44 pm to
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We're just trying to say that we aren't nearly as fricked as the fricktards on this site say.

Then why do y'all keep pointing fingers at State. Even if State did pay him, that doesn't mean Ole Miss didn't.

And let's say y'all are punished as severely as many expect...will you come in here and admit you're wrong? My guess is no

And since I have you on the line, can you help me out with something
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none of you seem to want to address these confidential transcripts that Ole Miss journalists seem to have and why/how they have them. I'd seriously love an honest answer to that or at least an attempt at an explanation.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:45 pm to
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Of course we're fricked. We're just trying to say that we aren't nearly as fricked as the fricktards on this site say.


fricking right
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:47 pm to
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The transcripts are from the actual interviews


Ole Miss doesn't possess anything like that bro. Don't be gullible enough to believe what your guys are saying. They have misled you sheep from the beginning. When any of you sheep post us a credible link of this we will all believe it. Until then, I am sorry but Ole Miss folks have no credibility and shouldn't be trusted.
Posted by IBleedMaroonDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2016
414 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:49 pm to
Crediibily

You really shouldn't take everything from this article today as gospel dude.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3018 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:55 pm to
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I missed where MSU had been served a Notice of Inquiry. When did that happen?



Not yet.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:56 pm to
Southern Miss is going to be the only one left standing.
Posted by rebel of fortune
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3531 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:59 pm to
Ole Miss clearly paid Lewis and they can't really argue that. They know their best chance is to make Lewis not be credible. The NCAA said Lewis wasn't credible when it came to him saying State paid him. Ole Miss argument is either Lewis is credible about everything or nothing. Ole Miss has a point but it doesn't really matter because of how much power the NCAA has.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:04 pm to
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it doesn't really matter because of how much power the NCAA has.


No, it doesn't really matter because the NCAA has a copy of Barney and the booster talking about the payment.
Posted by rebel of fortune
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3531 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:07 pm to
I said Ole Miss clearly got caught paying Lewis. I was talking about the NCAA picking and choosing what Lewis said is credible.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:12 pm to
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the NCAA picking and choosing what Lewis said is credible.


Well,in one instance they had corroborating information, a text message from Booster to Barney.

In the other instance the had words.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:15 pm to
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I was talking about the NCAA picking and choosing what Lewis said is credible.


There is no evidence they picked and chose anything.

He made an allegation against OM. Based on what is in the public realm, the NCAA substantiated that allegation with very damning messages involving boosters and football staff.

He made a similar allegation against Mississippi State. Whether that one is true or not isn't relevant to the OM investigation at all. They may well believe it too but just not be able to find corroborating evidence.
Posted by rebel of fortune
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3531 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:25 pm to
They have nothing on rebel rags and the free unofficial visits. Lewis couldn't even tell them who he went to them with. Lewis then tells the NCAA State paid him straight up and the NCAA didn't find it credible. NCAA spend seven years investigating Ole Miss and finished States investigation in two weeks.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 8/25/17 at 3:41 pm to
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NCAA spend seven years investigating Ole Miss and finished States investigation in two weeks.



Exactly. So why have you guys pinned your hopes of anything being dropped from their allegations? It is like you still believe you aren't about to bent over.
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