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re: Lewis will possibly have to speak against MSU to keep immunity
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:46 pm to pankReb
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:46 pm to pankReb
If their people said that then, yeah that's about as bad as what OM fans have been fed by their administration.
Having said that, he's been told to attend the meeting. Just like Freeze and the rest of those told to attend, there's no guarantee that the committee will any of them a single question.
It would be really interesting to see what went on behind the closed doors.
Having said that, he's been told to attend the meeting. Just like Freeze and the rest of those told to attend, there's no guarantee that the committee will any of them a single question.
It would be really interesting to see what went on behind the closed doors.
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Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:47 pm to pankReb
A prime witness asked to attend the trial...talk about a new precedent!!!!
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:47 pm to Rhino5
Makes you wonder if Sheridan knew Freeze was going to get fired regardless he may have just disregarded the Leo testimony all together.
Instead Leo's basically trapped bc the NCAA used him and his sketchy stories to make their case. MSU probably should've shut him up too.
Instead Leo's basically trapped bc the NCAA used him and his sketchy stories to make their case. MSU probably should've shut him up too.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:47 pm to pankReb
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Leo Lewis voids his immunity if he doesn't show.
Correct, he does have a choice to not show. That choice would likely end his career.
which pretty much everyone has said is the case: if the NCAA wants him to talk, he isn't legally required to do so, but his eligibility as an NCAA athlete depends on it.
I just don't understand where your sarcastic post came from as if people have been saying the opposite, unless you're referring to one of your own fans saying that he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to
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The NCAA is not going to punish the school that just helped them nail someone after giving their player immunity. They would never be able to use immunity again. It's why they opened and closed the investigation on MSU regarding Leo Lewis in about 2 weeks.
This is also true.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:49 pm to pankReb
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99 cent blizzards
Soooooooo 2016.
It's all 'bout them Custard Concretes now days (fat)
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:49 pm to peepingcrxxms
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Ole Miss didn't have their case reopened
What?
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but the number of alleged rules violations rose from 13 to 21 in the amended notice after the case was reopened following former offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil’s claim on the first night of last year’s NFL Draft
LINK
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:51 pm to Rhino5
There's already multiple threads about this U. Miss. Grad's Fantasy.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:53 pm to Rhino5
Just because a journalist says it was "reopened" doesn't mean that's what happened. This is all semantics, but a case is not reopened unless it was closed and finished. This case has yet even be adjudicated, so it's never been "closed." The NCAA merely filed an amended notice of allegations to add new charges that were discovered after the first notice was entered.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:55 pm to lsufball19
The American Bar Association actually has a primer covering what role lawyers play in the NCAA process.
Here's an excerpt from page 8:
This principle imposes an “affirmative duty to cooperate and disclose any information.” Accordingly, those being interviewed throughout the NCAA enforcement process have no right to remain silent
Which should remove any doubt about whether or not he is required to talk.
Interestingly, it also contains this tidbit:
Interviews may be recorded. However, if the interviewee objects to recording, the enforcement staff must prepare a written summary. The interviewee has the right to revise and make additions to the interview transcript; he or she may also request that a court reporter transcribe the interview. The individual or institutional representative interviewed must agree to keep transcripts of the interview confidential.
A writer that just happens to be an OM graduate now has access to the transcripts of Leo Lewis' interviews. Since I very seriously doubt he got them from the NCAA, I bet that fact goes over swimmingly with the COI.
Here's an excerpt from page 8:
This principle imposes an “affirmative duty to cooperate and disclose any information.” Accordingly, those being interviewed throughout the NCAA enforcement process have no right to remain silent
Which should remove any doubt about whether or not he is required to talk.
Interestingly, it also contains this tidbit:
Interviews may be recorded. However, if the interviewee objects to recording, the enforcement staff must prepare a written summary. The interviewee has the right to revise and make additions to the interview transcript; he or she may also request that a court reporter transcribe the interview. The individual or institutional representative interviewed must agree to keep transcripts of the interview confidential.
A writer that just happens to be an OM graduate now has access to the transcripts of Leo Lewis' interviews. Since I very seriously doubt he got them from the NCAA, I bet that fact goes over swimmingly with the COI.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:55 pm to Rhino5
That article is wrong. The article by Godfrey today shows it was wrong. The OM administration used the draft night fiasco to lie (again) about the case being reopened. It never closed. Players were still being interviewed well before the draft night happened. It's in Godfrey's article.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:55 pm to Rhino5
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The letter, which was obtained by SB Nation, alleges that NCAA enforcement confirmed to Ole Miss that they had “quickly opened and subsequently closed” the investigation because Lewis’s statements about receiving money from Mississippi State were deemed to be “ultimately... not sufficiently credible to support an allegation.”
Lewis admits to taking money from MSU = Not credible to support allegation.
Lewis claims OM booster paid him $10K = Credible witness against Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:57 pm to Billy Mays
Little poetic justice here for MSU.
Tried so hard to bring OM down and now looks like they'll be caught up in it as well.
RIP Landmass
Tried so hard to bring OM down and now looks like they'll be caught up in it as well.
RIP Landmass
Posted on 8/25/17 at 1:59 pm to JesusQuintana
Oh look, another guy who didn't read the article.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:00 pm to Billy Mays
When the NCAA has a message between a MSU football staff member and booster discussing a meeting with Lewis and concern that they'd just wasted $10,000 you'll have a point.
You might have missed it, but they've got that with the OM case.
You might have missed it, but they've got that with the OM case.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:00 pm to pankReb
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Leo Lewis voids his immunity if he doesn't show.
Not necessary. The language says, "could". The NCAA could just choose to say he cooperated even if he didn't show. This isn't a court of law. Its a system of corruption.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:01 pm to Billy Mays
With the OM allegation the NCAA has a lot of evidence to support the testimony. With the MSU stuff they have nothing except testimony. If we are being real then obviously the NCAA could dig and find the evidence against state if they really wanted to, but that would ruin immunity for them.
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:02 pm to Rhino5
This really is amazing. An OM message board poster (yes, Godfrey frequented SPS and either NF or Spirit for years before he became a "journalist") pieces together all of the OM message board talking points, calls it an "article", and posts it on a largely ignored fan site/blog and people give it creedance?
Godfrey has no idea why LL is attending the COI. His whole premise is his (an OM fan and alumni) own conjecture. Pure, biased, speculation. That's it.
The FACTS are:
This is the OM COI
He is a witness for the prosecution.
The NCAA has evidence that supports his testimony
He has received immunity
The NCAA already cleared him and MSU.
OM is fricked
It's all in the "article". Geez, if I typed this up with pretty pictures and cool font and posted it on a fan site blog, would that change your mind? Coftveve!
ETA - The most plausible scenario is that the COI members just want a chance to hear his testimony and judge his credibility on their own. There are 3 interviews, some minor inconsistencies, enforcement saying he's credible, and OM arguing he is not. If OM can take any good news from this, it's that. The COI members may not be ready to take his testimony and the supporting evidence as gospel just yet. Outside of that, this is a HUGE nothing-burger.
Godfrey has no idea why LL is attending the COI. His whole premise is his (an OM fan and alumni) own conjecture. Pure, biased, speculation. That's it.
The FACTS are:
This is the OM COI
He is a witness for the prosecution.
The NCAA has evidence that supports his testimony
He has received immunity
The NCAA already cleared him and MSU.
OM is fricked
It's all in the "article". Geez, if I typed this up with pretty pictures and cool font and posted it on a fan site blog, would that change your mind? Coftveve!
ETA - The most plausible scenario is that the COI members just want a chance to hear his testimony and judge his credibility on their own. There are 3 interviews, some minor inconsistencies, enforcement saying he's credible, and OM arguing he is not. If OM can take any good news from this, it's that. The COI members may not be ready to take his testimony and the supporting evidence as gospel just yet. Outside of that, this is a HUGE nothing-burger.
This post was edited on 8/25/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:02 pm to peepingcrxxms
What's the article have to do with anything? You paid Lewis. He has immunity. Not MSU
Is any of that wrong? Correct me if so
Is any of that wrong? Correct me if so
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:04 pm to JustGetItRight
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The interviewee has the right to revise and make additions to the interview transcript; he or she may also request that a court reporter transcribe the interview.
What the frick is this? So Lewis has the option of basically recanting/amending his entire interview/deposition if he so chooses?
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The individual or institutional representative interviewed must agree to keep transcripts of the interview confidential.
yeah, this right here could become a problem for Ole Miss
Posted on 8/25/17 at 2:05 pm to JesusQuintana
The article clearly states that the investigation into Leo Lewis was opened and closed by the NCAA and found no credible evidence to support the claim. Did you not read it or what?
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