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re: Les Miles is probably a top 5 all-time coach in the SEC
Posted on 6/15/14 at 1:40 pm to abellsujr
Posted on 6/15/14 at 1:40 pm to abellsujr
There are two reasons you can't rank Les Miles that high. The reasons are Nick Saban and Alabama. I use them both for good reason.
Saban is a hell of a coach no doubt of that. But even the best need something to work with to do what he has done. Alabama is one of the places at which all you need is a leader to do great things and history proves my point here.
Saban and Alabama are a match made in Hell if you are an LSU follower. Just think about it. Had Saban never gone to Bama, then Miles might just be worthy of being called the best. What a juggernaut LSU would have been the last several years.
You probably have multiple BCS titles, maybe in a row. WHO would have stopped you? The Aubies muster a good team every few years but not consistently like LSU. It would be Pax LSU,the Purple and Gold age.
But it didn't happen,because of the aforementioned hellspawned marriage. Alabama and Nick Saban have stopped you cold and now have won three in a row.
Now I am not down on Les,far from it. He is a hell of a coach without a doubt and you just can't help but like the guy. He is not an asshat like a Spurrier or Meyer, he conducts himself with class, and his eccentricities are entertaining to say the least.
But the best is in Tuscaloosa. He was before and another is now.
Saban is a hell of a coach no doubt of that. But even the best need something to work with to do what he has done. Alabama is one of the places at which all you need is a leader to do great things and history proves my point here.
Saban and Alabama are a match made in Hell if you are an LSU follower. Just think about it. Had Saban never gone to Bama, then Miles might just be worthy of being called the best. What a juggernaut LSU would have been the last several years.
You probably have multiple BCS titles, maybe in a row. WHO would have stopped you? The Aubies muster a good team every few years but not consistently like LSU. It would be Pax LSU,the Purple and Gold age.
But it didn't happen,because of the aforementioned hellspawned marriage. Alabama and Nick Saban have stopped you cold and now have won three in a row.
Now I am not down on Les,far from it. He is a hell of a coach without a doubt and you just can't help but like the guy. He is not an asshat like a Spurrier or Meyer, he conducts himself with class, and his eccentricities are entertaining to say the least.
But the best is in Tuscaloosa. He was before and another is now.
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 2:10 pm to sorantable
He's got a loooooooong way to go before he even deserves being mentioned as a top 10 SEC of all time.
Right now he's at best the 3rd best coach in the conference and I'm sure if Saban had coached UGA before him, that Richt would have won a title too.
Right now he's at best the 3rd best coach in the conference and I'm sure if Saban had coached UGA before him, that Richt would have won a title too.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 2:15 pm to MontyFranklyn
Kevin Faulk was the start of the snowball in reality
Posted on 6/15/14 at 2:25 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Bait2008,the truth hurts doesn't it?
Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:23 pm to sorantable
Les Miles = Phil Fulmer
Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:33 pm to bigDgator
Urban Meyer equals pussy
Posted on 6/15/14 at 4:39 pm to Nado Jenkins83
He handed Les his biggest defeat since coming to LSU.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:01 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Les just took over a Saban enterprise.
And has done better than Saban did while at LSU. We hear all the time about how hard it is to follow a legendary coach except if you happen to be Les Miles following Saban I suppose.
The fact of the matter is that Miles has a great record, is still going strong even though the SECW is stronger than ever and the SEC overall might be harder than ever to compete in. But all of his detractors dismiss all of his accomplishments while giving the other coaches credit for similar success.
I give Saban his due, he is the best recruiter I've ever seen and a great coach. I believe the SEC has the best group of coaches ever assembled in one conference and incredible programs, thus I also believe that Les Miles has proven how great he is by having so much success.
LSU isn't any easier to win big at than any other big program, many of you just don't want to give Les any credit. If anyone believes otherwise just look at what happened at UF twice, Nebraska, Alabama, Tenn, Miami, USC, Mich., Georgia, Notre Dame, etc. The list is endless of schools where the coach supposedly doesn't really matter as long as the coach is average. That is likely the most lame and lazy argument a fan can make.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:01 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Yes but what does this have to do with Les Miles?
Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:02 pm to cajdav1
Les is an excellent coach,he just came along at the wrong time.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:14 pm to antibarner
Every era has to have great competitors who compete for championships over and over again. Russell and Wilt, Malone and Jabbar, Bird & Magic, Knoll & Landry, Lombardi & Shula. These competitions are what makes the sport so compelling.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 6:12 am
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:15 pm to antibarner
Les will beat Nick this year. That story has yet to be written. I think history will remember that rivalry up there with Bo and Woody once the story is all told.
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:45 pm to sorantable
miles' win percentage in this era of sec west competition is nearly legendary. add in his record against the best competition and he's knocking on the door of top tier sec all time. national championships and undefeated seasons are not necessary for miles at this point. what it takes for miles to reach the top tier is subjective.
btw, there is no trophy for undefeated seasons. that's auburn loser talk.
btw, there is no trophy for undefeated seasons. that's auburn loser talk.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 1:10 am to bfniii
Les won't beat Nick this time. Nick has a better team.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 3:47 am to RollTide1987
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That's because LSU fans will always compare his success to Nick Saban's. He won a national title, but a lot of people love to argue that he did it with Nick Saban's recruits and that he backed into the title game with an unprecedented two losses. Another factor that Miles has going against him is the fact that his best team ever got shut out in the BCS National Championship Game.
Give it a break,yea,lets talk about 2011 and backing in, you know damn well who backed into the BCS championship game. A team that lost to LSU during the season, sit on thier butt while an undefeated LSU team had to play in the seccg. Didnt even win the west,and still got a mulligan. And dont even compare the 2011 schedules. LSU went undeafeated against one of the toughest schedules a team will ever face. Alabama should have at least had to win thier division to play in the BCSCG. What a farce. Game of the century meant absolutly nothing 9-6,it should have ended for bama there.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 4:19 am
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:14 am to cheapseat
The first game was a fluke,you lose it too if not for multiple missed field goals. The second game PROVED it was a fluke.
The reason LSU people were in an uproar about the rematch was they knew Alabama was the only team that could beat them.
The reason LSU people were in an uproar about the rematch was they knew Alabama was the only team that could beat them.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 7:15 am
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:28 am to antibarner
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The reason LSU people were in an uproar about the rematch was they knew Alabama was the only team that could beat them.
Exactly. In the end this is what it all boils down to. Alabama out gained LSU in that November 5 match up, they got into LSU territory many more times than LSU got into Alabama territory, with mistakes and good defense being our downfall once we got to the 30.
Had Foster made at least one additional field goal that game would have been ours. You weren't the better team. You got lucky in Tuscaloosa and Alabama showed you just how good they were on 1/9 - a game your fan base still has yet to recover from.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 7:34 am
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:39 am to RollTide1987
So when LSU out-gained Bama in 2012, it was a "Fluke" Bama won?
BTW, 50+ yard FG's are NOT give me's. You missed them because, well, you couldn't make them........
NO NO bro. The only fluke was Les Miles thinking JJ running the option would work AGAIN......
Count your blessings. Bama scored 1 TD in two meetings. The TD coming in the final Minutes of the game. Congrats on the win, but anyone with a pulse new it had more to do with an incompetent game plan by LSU than anything else. LSU gaind like 3 yards in the 1st half of the NC game and Bama managed 3 FG's. Congrats!
BTW, 50+ yard FG's are NOT give me's. You missed them because, well, you couldn't make them........
NO NO bro. The only fluke was Les Miles thinking JJ running the option would work AGAIN......
Count your blessings. Bama scored 1 TD in two meetings. The TD coming in the final Minutes of the game. Congrats on the win, but anyone with a pulse new it had more to do with an incompetent game plan by LSU than anything else. LSU gaind like 3 yards in the 1st half of the NC game and Bama managed 3 FG's. Congrats!
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 6/16/14 at 7:55 am to JayDeerTay84
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So when LSU out-gained Bama in 2012, it was a "Fluke" Bama won?
For all intents and purposes, Alabama probably should have lost that game in Tiger Stadium. They were completely shutdown on offense in the second half. That final drive was a fluke/bad defensive strategy.
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BTW, 50+ yard FG's are NOT give me's. You missed them because, well, you couldn't make them........
Only two of them were in that range - the second one and the last one.
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LSU gaind like 3 yards in the 1st half of the NC game and Bama managed 3 FG's. Congrats!
Thanks. We still won.
Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:01 am to RollTide1987
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Only two of them were in that range - the second one and the last one.
Do you know the range of the others you missed. They were still 40+. That is still a range ol Nick should have known his overgrown kicker could not make.
The only thing that changed from the 1st game to the 2nd was Bama's strategy on O. A slightly different attack that allowed for more FGs. LSU's failure was the same damn gameplan. Pure and simple...
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