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re: Les Miles is probably a top 5 all-time coach in the SEC
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:29 pm to OBReb6
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:29 pm to OBReb6
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It brings a smile to my face that Miles has had as much success as he has over the years, and yet this question still has to be asked
This is the problem IMO. LSU fans are the first to bash Miles, but any logical person has the reasoning ability to recognize, and respect, what he has accomplished as a head coach.
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:31 pm to RB10
The mississippi meltdown has a lot to do with it
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:34 pm to OBReb6
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The mississippi meltdown has a lot to do with it
Nah. More like my fellow Tigers LOVE to bitch. It really is that simple. Until LSU is winning the NC in every sport, every year, some of the fans will not be happy.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:36 pm to RB10
The mississippi meltdown in 09 really fueled the fire for people to legitimately wanting him fired. 21-0 made him unforgivable for a lot of folks afterwards. Dude is a great coach though
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:37 pm to OBReb6
He brought it on himself by being so loyal to JJ
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:38 pm to DMagic
That too
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:47 pm to OBReb6
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The mississippi meltdown in 09 really fueled the fire for people to legitimately wanting him fired. 21-0 made him unforgivable for a lot of folks afterwards. Dude is a great coach though
Don't get me wrong, I was PLENTY mad about both of these game (Paid $500 for a ticket in 2011). I also realize that the program is in a position that it has never been before and that is 100% due to Les Miles. He has, arguably, the best OC/DC duo in the country and just brought in the best recruiting class that LSU has ever seen, and, IMO, one of the best ever as far as filling needs.
I also like to think I'm MUCH more rational that 95% of LSU fans so TIFWIW.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:50 pm to RB10
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He has had sustained success that is nearly unseen before.
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1. Explain the 90's.
LSU sucked and Louisiana's best recruits went out of state. Saban is a great coach and made LSU and elite destination program.
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2. Explain why Saban is successful at Bama after 7 years of meh.
Saban is a great coach.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:52 pm to DMagic
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being so loyal to JJ
One of the great mysteries of our time.
Honestly it's amazing we somehow managed to average 10 wins a year during the JJ/JL era.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:53 pm to Monticello
You made no points that weren't laughable......
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:54 pm to craigbiggio
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Honestly it's amazing we somehow managed to average 10 wins a year during the JJ/JL era.
Superior D. Only explanation.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:54 pm to Monticello
The fences around Louisiana recruiting were already being put up before Saban arrived. He helped build up the program but it's not like he walked into mess. Saban is a great coach but it also takes a great coach (Miles) to sustain that kind of success.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:55 pm to craigbiggio
That's the best defense LSU has ever had which is incredible in and of itself. Also outside of QB the offense was loaded too.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:55 pm to RB10
Great running backs too.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:58 pm to PortCityTiger82
Posted on 6/13/14 at 9:58 pm to DMagic
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That's the best defense LSU has ever had which is incredible in and of itself. Also outside of QB the offense was loaded too.
I don't think I've ever seen an opposing fan, other than Bama fans, acknowledge this (Assuming you're talking about 2011. That unit was special.). +1 to you fella.
Just FYI the 2015 and 2016 LSU defense is in a position to be similar to 2011, as far as talent at least. That squad was special, though, and I'm not sure any LSU D will live up to it.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:02 pm to Monticello
quote:Saban may be a great coach, but he only created the potential LSU could reach. Other than the BCS title, his LSU teams finished at or below 10th in the rankings. He never ran off a string of seasons like Les has here; he's done that at Alabama (which most people agree, it's an easier place to do it at if you have the ability).
He has had sustained success that is nearly unseen before.
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1. Explain the 90's.
LSU sucked and Louisiana's best recruits went out of state. Saban is a great coach and made LSU and elite destination program.
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2. Explain why Saban is successful at Bama after 7 years of meh.
Saban is a great coach.
Les would be at least as good at Alabama as Saban, I suspect. And a hell of a lot easier to deal with.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:03 pm to RB10
Yes 2011. I don't think that the future tigers can hope to match that production unless y'all's LB corps steps up big time.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:05 pm to Scoob
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Les would be at least as good at Alabama as Saban, I suspect. And a hell of a lot easier to deal with.
This is ridiculous. Saban is the best coach in college, but sustaining success is almost as tough as building a program from scratch. Miles deserves more credit than he will ever get, but with the volatility of LSU fans he's going to be bashed no matter what.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:09 pm to DMagic
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Yes 2011. I don't think that the future tigers can hope to match that production unless y'all's LB corps steps up big time.
2015 and 2016 will be interesting. The LB corps is probably the best that LSU has ever had the the backfield is absolutely filled with talent. Rashard Robinson is a name to remember because he's going to be an absolute stud and Tre White is no slouch.
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