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re: Leo Lewis will attend the NCAA hearing with Ole Miss
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:21 am to SouthOfHere
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:21 am to SouthOfHere
Here's how it will go down:
LL in front of COI committee, no OM people present....
COI: "Mr. Lewis, did you tell the truth in your earlier statements to the NCAA?"
LL: "Yes, sir."
COI: "You may go."
LL walks out and smiles at the OM team as they walk in.
OM team presents its case...
OM:"We demand under section xxx that we cross-examine Mr. LL!"
COI: "Demand denied."
OM: "We'll see you in court! You'll rue the day!"
(COI chairman frowns, then crosses out 3 bowl ban years and writes in 4.)
LL in front of COI committee, no OM people present....
COI: "Mr. Lewis, did you tell the truth in your earlier statements to the NCAA?"
LL: "Yes, sir."
COI: "You may go."
LL walks out and smiles at the OM team as they walk in.
OM team presents its case...
OM:"We demand under section xxx that we cross-examine Mr. LL!"
COI: "Demand denied."
OM: "We'll see you in court! You'll rue the day!"
(COI chairman frowns, then crosses out 3 bowl ban years and writes in 4.)
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:33 am to GnashRebel
Ha ha ha do other schools cheat? Yes, probably a 100$ hand shake here and there and maybe a free meal, maybe even a deal on a used car. But setting up a huge network across the country, throwing thousands of dollars, alcohol, escorts, and buying houses/moving families across the country and paying all of their bills,having a head coach in a house with a booster and fixing ACT scores...Only OM would be dumb enough to do all of that and then blatantly lie about it at every turn. All for what, a couple wins over Bama and a Sugar Bowl victory with a few 5-6 win seasons thrown in.
Way to go Rebs you exceeded expectations.
Way to go Rebs you exceeded expectations.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:42 am to MedDawg
I'm not sure why OM is so excited that LL is going to be at the hearing. It isn't like OM is going to get to cross exam him. He'll make his statement, the COI may ask some clarfication questions and they will move on. I don't see any scenario at the hearing where he get branded a liar or whatever. He'll be well prepped and well prepared.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:46 am to krandor
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I'm not sure why OM is so excited that LL is going to be at the hearing.
Not naming names, but there are OM fans who believe that not only will OM be exonerated when Leo is proven to be a filthy liar, but that the COI will then throw the book at MSU and Dan Mullen, all at the same hearing.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:47 am to Vecchio Cane
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Not naming names, but there are OM fans who believe that not only will OM be exonerated when Leo is proven to be a filthy liar, but that the COI will then throw the book at MSU and Dan Mullen, all at the same hearing.
Somewhere in fantasyland maybe.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 9:53 am to peepingcrxxms
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:45 am to matthew25
Everything with Leo Lewis depends on which story will he tell in front of the COI. He has 3 different ones to choose from.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:55 am to REBSontheRISE
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Everything with Leo Lewis depends on which story will he tell in front of the COI. He has 3 different ones to choose from.
I guess. You're right. 1 story he has told. Tgen 2 atleast tgat OM people "say" he has said at sometime. But why would he change from the same story he has stuck with throughout the whole thing?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:01 am to matthew25
all of you must blow donkey balls in poker... What if Leo wanted to go to MsState the whole time... but he decided to play the other schools for the fools they are... Play hard to get then give a big bluff... get the other schools to pay you before signing day and then sign with the school you want without ever showing your hand. Personally that's how I would go about it if I were a recruit. maybe it didn't go down like that though.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:04 am to krandor
i think Leo was invited because they feel sorry for him... They are allowing him courtside seats to see OM and Rebel rags burn to the ground.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:06 am to SouthOfHere
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I guess. You're right. 1 story he has told. Tgen 2 atleast tgat OM people "say" he has said at sometime. But why would he change from the same story he has stuck with throughout the whole thing?
if I post the blatant discrepancies in his stories, would it make a difference to you? no...but perhaps it will to the COI.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:08 am to REBSontheRISE
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if I post the blatant discrepancies in his stories,
If you have a credible source, post away. Would be interesting info
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:20 am to matthew25
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Leo Lewis will attend the NCAA hearing with Ole Miss
Link?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:29 am to REBSontheRISE
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if I post the blatant discrepancies in his stories, would it make a difference to you? no...but perhaps it will to the COI.
You guys act like LL is the entire case. Even if by some miracle the COI decides to completely throw out his testimony that THEIR investigators took, and they drop all "student athlete 39" charges (by the way, 39! LL isn't athlete 1 here. There's a bunch of cheating involved) then you still have how many level 1 violations? 12? 13?
Ole. Miss. Is. Screwed. Stop putting your hopes on this one kid being thrown out.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:29 am to matthew25
Won't it be a hoot if Leo tells them that Booster John Doe offered him his choice of four or five Diamond Girls, that Hugh would make it happen and Leo turned them down.
Stranger things have happened.
The reaction from OM and NCAA would be worthy of filming. ESPN would go crazy trying to get the 30 for 30 completed and out.
Stranger things have happened.
The reaction from OM and NCAA would be worthy of filming. ESPN would go crazy trying to get the 30 for 30 completed and out.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:30 am to TigerAxeOK
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but what was Leo's story, in short summary
laid
paid
HF failed to save.
went to MSU
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:31 am to partsman103
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laid paid HF failed to save. went to MSU
Preach it!
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:42 am to Vecchio Cane
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If you have a credible source, post away. Would be interesting info
'credible source' is a relative term, depending on where your loyalties lie. my source(OM response to the allegations) is just as credible as the words that come from Leos mouth...
I find it hard to translate from legalese to a coherent paragraph, but then again, you guys are way smarter than me.
B. Allegation No. 16-(c) – $10,000 Payment Allegation
No. 16- (c) is perhaps the most “headline - worthy” claim that [Student-Athlete 39] raised during this investigation – and it is the allegation that is the most refuted or undermined by objective evidence. [Student-Athlete 39] has provided two very different accounts of what supposedly occurred on February 3, 2015, the day he claims to have received $10,000 from [Booster 14], and suggested two different timelines for this event. Both timelines are contradicted in several important ways. As a result, the factual record indicates that [Student-Athlete 39] did not tell the truth about that afternoon.
A major concern with this allegation is [Student-Athlete 39’s]inconsistent recollection of the events. In [Student-Athlete 39’s]first interview, he discussed in general terms the $10,000 payment he supposedly received from [Booster 14], alleging that [Booster 14] reached out to him, they met the day before signing day, and [Booster 14] provided him a wad of $100 bills. FI No. 232 at 23-26, [Student-Athlete 39] 8/10/16 transcript. In his second interview, however, [Student-Athlete 39] suggested that he reached out to [Booster 14] the day before the payment and specifically asked for $10,000. FI No. 265 at 98, [Student-Athlete 39] 11/18/16 transcript. [Student-Athlete 39] also said that he and [Booster 14] met in a [Third Party Business 1]
parking lot soon after he was let out of school and, contrary to his prior description of their interaction, [Booster 14] handed him a bag full of money.
These internal inconsistencies involving who initiated the contact and the form in which the money was paid cast doubt on [Student-Athlete 39’s]
story. That story is undermined by changes to his basic description of events. Although [Student-Athlete 39] initially denied having communicated with [Booster 14] at any time following the payment, he later changed his story when the enforcement staff showed him a text message from [Booster 14] to Farrar (not a text to or from [Student-Athlete 39]) dated February 3, 2015, at approximately 4:00 p.m. When presented with the text by the staff, [Student-Athlete 39] claimed to have received the same text message
about “an hour or two”
after meeting with [Booster 14] and receiving the $10,000.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:49 am to REBSontheRISE
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B. Allegation No. 16-(c) – $10,000 Payment Allegation
No. 16- (c) is perhaps the most “headline - worthy” claim that [Student-Athlete 39] raised during this investigation – and it is the allegation that is the most refuted or undermined by objective evidence. [Student-Athlete 39] has provided two very different accounts of what supposedly occurred on February 3, 2015, the day he claims to have received $10,000 from [Booster 14], and suggested two different timelines for this event. Both timelines are contradicted in several important ways. As a result, the factual record indicates that [Student-Athlete 39] did not tell the truth about that afternoon.
A major concern with this allegation is [Student-Athlete 39’s]inconsistent recollection of the events. In [Student-Athlete 39’s]first interview, he discussed in general terms the $10,000 payment he supposedly received from [Booster 14], alleging that [Booster 14] reached out to him, they met the day before signing day, and [Booster 14] provided him a wad of $100 bills. FI No. 232 at 23-26, [Student-Athlete 39] 8/10/16 transcript. In his second interview, however, [Student-Athlete 39] suggested that he reached out to [Booster 14] the day before the payment and specifically asked for $10,000. FI No. 265 at 98, [Student-Athlete 39] 11/18/16 transcript. [Student-Athlete 39] also said that he and [Booster 14] met in a [Third Party Business 1]
parking lot soon after he was let out of school and, contrary to his prior description of their interaction, [Booster 14] handed him a bag full of money.
These internal inconsistencies involving who initiated the contact and the form in which the money was paid cast doubt on [Student-Athlete 39’s]
story. That story is undermined by changes to his basic description of events. Although [Student-Athlete 39] initially denied having communicated with [Booster 14] at any time following the payment, he later changed his story when the enforcement staff showed him a text message from [Booster 14] to Farrar (not a text to or from [Student-Athlete 39]) dated February 3, 2015, at approximately 4:00 p.m. When presented with the text by the staff, [Student-Athlete 39] claimed to have received the same text message
about “an hour or two”
after meeting with [Booster 14] and receiving the $10,000.
Might sound reasonable, but that isn't legal 'fact', it's from the Ole Miss response to the 2nd NOA. Thing is, the NCAA recently rejected all of Ole Miss' objections in their response and will proceed with the COI hearings from the original NOAs.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:56 am to REBSontheRISE
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if I post the blatant discrepancies in his stories, would it make a difference to you? no...but perhaps it will to the COI.
Blatant discrepancies? Stuff you call blatant discrepancies are common in every testimony ever given at any time in human history. Your dealing with a teens memory during a whirlwind recruiting period. He picked RRs truck out exactly as the booster he met at the house with Freeze. And no one anywhere has the slightest doubt in his testimony except OM homers. The COI had rejected that idea already. Keep grasping grasshopper.
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