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re: Leo Lewis will attend the NCAA hearing with Ole Miss
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:58 am to MedDawg
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:58 am to MedDawg
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Thing is, the NCAA recently rejected all of Ole Miss' objections in their response and will proceed with the COI hearings from the original NOAs.
all of which backs up and lends credence to the truth that this was a witch hunt from the very beginning, starting with the Moncrief harassment in 2013. The NCAA formed the conclusion that Ole Miss was guilty FIRST, and then spent 4 1/2 years searching for the evidence that would support the conclusion they had already formed.
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:00 pm to REBSontheRISE
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'credible source' is a relative term, depending on where your loyalties lie. my source(OM response to the allegations) is just as credible as the words that come from Leos mouth...
I guess because he's black? So he's not credible? You OM people have let a lot of obvious racism slip out today in your posts.
"LL can't be credible"
"The COI will just look at him and see he's a lying liar"
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:03 pm to REBSontheRISE
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I find it hard to translate from legalese to a coherent paragraph,
They do that on purpose, Here's the gist:
OM doesn't deny the violation. They claim that discrepencies in the 2 testimonies throw doubt on Leo's ability to tell or remember the truth.
But they use their own admission of guilt as evidence:
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when the enforcement staff showed him a text message from [Booster 14] to Farrar (not a text to or from [Student-Athlete 39]) dated February 3, 2015, at approximately 4:00 p.m. When presented with the text by the staff, [Student-Athlete 39] claimed to have received the same text message about “an hour or two” after meeting with [Booster 14] and receiving the $10,000.
It's beyond a Hail Mary long-shot to take this ammo to the COI hearing, but desperate times call for desperate measures
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:03 pm to SouthOfHere
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I guess because he's black? So he's not credible? You OM people have let a lot of obvious racism slip out today in your posts.
you are a pathetic sorry piece of shite. you are the type that uses racism as a way to silence opposition...you voted Hillary, didn't cha
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:03 pm to REBSontheRISE
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all of which backs up and lends credence to the truth that this was a witch hunt from the very beginning, starting with the Moncrief harassment in 2013. The NCAA formed the conclusion that Ole Miss was guilty FIRST, and then spent 4 1/2 years searching for the evidence that would support the conclusion they had already formed.
I don't see how that helps you. The NCAA didn't need Moncrief, they already had OM on ACT fraud in 2012/2013.
I don't see what the big deal is over Moncrief. It was all over in a week and Moncrief didn't miss a single game. How many fans from ALL schools complain about the nice cars that players from other schools drive? It was simply something looked into and settled in a week. And Donte Moncrief was driving a nice car that wasn't his, so it was worth looking into.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:05 pm to REBSontheRISE
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of which backs up and lends credence to the truth that this was a witch hunt from the very beginning, starting with the Moncrief harassment in 2013. The NCAA formed the conclusion that Ole Miss was guilty FIRST, and then spent 4 1/2 years searching for the evidence that would support the conclusion they had already formed.
Dude, of course they thought you were guilty of cheating before they started the investigation. That's the reason there was an investigation in the first place. When multiple coaches etc. report that you are cheating and you sign top 5 classes right out of the gate despite being a perennial bottom-dweller it tends to draw suspicion from those who uphold the law. What is it that you have a problem with rebel?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:07 pm to MedDawg
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I don't see what the big deal is over Moncrief. It was all over in a week and Moncrief didn't miss a single game. How many fans from ALL schools complain about the nice cars that players from other schools drive? It was simply something looked into and settled in a week. And Donte Moncrief was driving a nice car that wasn't his, so it was worth looking into.
it shows the beginning of a pattern of unethical, shady and gestapo like tactics used in the investigation, by misrepresenting themselves in order to gain evidence.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:08 pm to REBSontheRISE
I bet you eat your steak extra well done and then complain about the texture and the tenderness.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:10 pm to yatesdog38
You any kin to the Yates Construction family?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:10 pm to yatesdog38
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I bet you eat your steak extra well done and then complain about the texture and the tenderness.
did you think this was witty, before hitting the submit button?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:12 pm to REBSontheRISE
i think it is witty across multiple dimensions and timelines
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:13 pm to yatesdog38
wait for it wait for it.... yep still a witty comment
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:14 pm to Commander Data
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Dude, of course they thought you were guilty of cheating before they started the investigation.
right on, I get it...innocent until PROVEN GUILTY does not apply when it comes to the gestapo and the NCAA...of course, the exact opposite occurred with the Cam Newton thing at Auburn. obviously, there are different rules for different schools.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:20 pm to REBSontheRISE
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innocent until PROVEN GUILTY does not apply when it comes to the gestapo and the NCAA...of course, the exact opposite occurred with the Cam Newton thing at Auburn. obviously, there are different rules for different schools.
This is not the American judicial system and the ncaa probably did believe Auburn was guilty and that's why they investigated. Don't be butthurt because they were either truly innocent or they covered their tracks like a boss. You are angry at everyone other than the corrupt program that is responsible for this shite show. I truly hated the Bama administration and dumbass boosters that got us fricked up by the ncaa.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:20 pm to REBSontheRISE
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right on, I get it...innocent until PROVEN GUILTY does not apply when it comes to the gestapo and the NCAA...of course, the exact opposite occurred with the Cam Newton thing at Auburn. obviously, there are different rules for different schools.
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I get it.
I really dont think you do...
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:23 pm to REBSontheRISE
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all of which backs up and lends credence to the truth that this was a witch hunt from the very beginning,
I see no problem with a witch hunt if there's an actual witch to be found.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:23 pm to Commander Data
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This is not the American judicial system and the ncaa probably did believe Auburn was guilty and that's why they investigated. Don't be butthurt because they were either truly innocent or they covered their tracks like a boss. You are angry at everyone other than the corrupt program that is responsible for this shite show. I truly hated the Bama administration and dumbass boosters that got us fricked up by the ncaa.
This isnt some murder investigation where someone else might be guilty, this is a claim and then investigation of that claim. its exactly how anything similar would go. The NCAA just doesnt need proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:26 pm to REBSontheRISE
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right on, I get it...innocent until PROVEN GUILTY does not apply when it comes to the gestapo and the NCAA...of course, the exact opposite occurred with the Cam Newton thing at Auburn. obviously, there are different rules for different schools.
Except Auburn was not guilty and Ole Miss is guilty. There was never as much a single phone call between Auburn and the MSU former player/agent who tried to use his connections to get MSU to pay.
Why else would the NCAA protect Auburn when everyone in the media, etc was against us?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:26 pm to REBSontheRISE
Some schools have earned respect with sincere cooperation and some schools have earned disdain from arrogance, deceit, and in-your-face, "everyone does it" behavior.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:30 pm to Commander Data
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This is not the American judicial system and the ncaa probably did believe Auburn was guilty and that's why they investigated. Don't be butthurt because they were either truly innocent or they covered their tracks like a boss.
They won the championship. It would have been a PR disaster to have to vacate a championship.
Ole Miss didn't. That's one of the differences here.
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