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re: Key to a dominant sec team.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No he wasn't. Nfl teams pass because it is a passing league as they have the best QBS ON THE PLANET. In CFB only one or two , in a given draft year, will go on to start in the nfl as a rookie. The college teams that these qbs came from , probably did pass more , but that is such a small % of CFB qbs, that it makes power running games , on of the best way to win.
This was one of the first things I was explaining to him. Rush offense with play action is easier to execute. Put the ball in the air more then 30 times you get turnovers and at best flop field position in college at worst pick 6.
It just seems that teams have left the power I and pro sets. And it's apparent people are having a hard time physically matching up with that strategy. The nfl is a different ball of wax entirely.
Doesn't matter. If I know what you are going to run, you fricked. You can always attempt a pass. But if you can't even attempt a run, you're in serious trouble.
Besides, I just like that style better anyway.
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:13 am to dreaux
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This was one of the first things I was explaining to him. Rush offense with play action is easier to execute. Put the ball in the air more then 30 times you get turnovers and at best flop field position in college at worst pick 6
You appear to be of the mindset that a well-executed passing offense at the college level is an impossibility.
I disagree with you on that point. How about we just leave it at that?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:20 am to bobbyray21
You calling someone dumb is the epitome of irony.you just said its harder to find a good olineman than it is to find a good qb. Lat year LSU had 5-8 good Olineman and NOT ONE GOOD QB. I said that Spurrier's offenses were pass happy, but those were 3-4 sectitles since 1932. Learn football
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:24 am to bobbyray21
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You appear to be of the mindset that a well-executed passing offense at the college level is an impossibility.
No one said that. Yes , If you have Andrew Luck or Geno Smith or RG 3 then a passing attack can be just as effective as a running game, BUT THERE ARE FAR MORE TEAMS THAT CAN RUN THE BALL EFEECTIVELY THAN THEIR ARE QBS WHOM CAN THROW THE BALL 40 times SUCCESSFULLY. last Time i checked all those qbs listed above lost ad the teams that can physically run it down your throat ( LSU Bama) were unmatched ( besides each other). Once again learn football
Posted on 9/19/12 at 12:57 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You calling someone dumb is the epitome of irony.
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you just said its harder to find a good olineman than it is to find a good qb.
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Lat year LSU had 5-8 good Olineman and NOT ONE GOOD QB.
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I said that Spurrier's offenses were pass happy, but those were 3-4 sectitles since 1932.
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Learn football
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Haha. Then you don't know what irony means either.
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To find five of them, corky. You struggle with the written word, yes?
Tennessee has an elite QB. How many elite OLs do we have? Do you think elite Offensive Linemen fricking grow on trees? Is there an infinite supply of fleet-footed 300lb men? Please get in touch with Derek Dooley and tell him what you know.
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I can't disagree with that. Not only were they not good, they were abjectly atrocious. Bummer man.
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Since 1993. And I listed 6. Though I realize counting is hard.
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Learn the whereabouts of the clitoris.
Good day then.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:06 am to bobbyray21
I've forgotten about more arse then you've dreamed of.
Yes you're a dumb arse. You calling someone dumb is ironic.
In this thread alone you've said,
1. The nfl hasn't made rule changes to make it a more passing league.
2. It's easier to find an elite qb than an elite Olineman
3. That because the nfl passes , then CFb can too.
Face it. You dont know football. It should tell you something when ,literally everyone in this thread , is telling you , you're wrong. DWI
Yes you're a dumb arse. You calling someone dumb is ironic.
In this thread alone you've said,
1. The nfl hasn't made rule changes to make it a more passing league.
2. It's easier to find an elite qb than an elite Olineman
3. That because the nfl passes , then CFb can too.
Face it. You dont know football. It should tell you something when ,literally everyone in this thread , is telling you , you're wrong. DWI
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:07 am to Rickdaddy4188
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No one said that. Yes , If you have Andrew Luck or Geno Smith or RG 3 then a passing attack can be just as effective as a running game, BUT THERE ARE FAR MORE TEAMS THAT CAN RUN THE BALL EFEECTIVELY THAN THEIR ARE QBS WHOM CAN THROW THE BALL 40 times SUCCESSFULLY. last Time i checked all those qbs listed above lost ad the teams that can physically run it down your throat ( LSU Bama) were unmatched ( besides each other). Once again learn football
Nonsense. To run a passing game you need to recruit about four or five good players.
To run a power running attack, you need to recruit about 15 good players.
Which is easier?
If you don't believe me, start watching some MACtion. Report back to me what you see, and why you see what you're seeing.
I'll look forward to speaking with you then and hearing your insightful analysis.
And best of luck in your continued search for the clitoris.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:08 am to bobbyray21
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Tennessee has an elite QB. How many elite OLs do we have? Do you think elite Offensive Linemen fricking grow on trees? Is there an infinite supply of fleet-footed 300lb men? Please get in touch with Derek Dooley and tell him what you know.
There are far more elite Olineman than their are qbs. Period.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:09 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Yes you're a dumb arse. You calling someone dumb is ironic.
Everyone reading this thread giggles a little when you call me dumb.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:10 am to Rickdaddy4188
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There are far more elite Olineman than their are qbs. Period.
You don't know what "elite" means either.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:10 am to bobbyray21
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Let me be quite candid: it is only definitive evidence that you are an intellectual lightweight who struggles to formulate thoughts. It is definitive evidence of nothing else.
Really? Bruh I know my iq is higher than yours. You are known to be one of the dumbest people on this site. DWI
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:47 am to dreaux
Football is won in the trenches. You have to control both lines of scrimmage to be a great football team. Most important thing in football bar none
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:02 am to DallasTiger45
Depth.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Really? Bruh I know my iq is higher than yours.
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You are known to be one of the dumbest people on this site.
1. Tell me how you know that. I want to hear your qualifications. They must be really impressive because from the things you write -- and the manner in which you write them -- I get the distinct impression that you're about as dumb as a bag of hammers.
2. I'm known, huh? Cool! So people on this board -- lots and lots of people, I imagine -- have been discussing my cognitive abilities. Super. If you could just send me a link to that thread, I'd appreciate it. Or alternatively it could be that
3. you're just a dumbass who writes dumb shite.
4. Yup, that's it. That's definitely it. I know it.
5. And you know it. And fricking Marsellus knows it.
6. We also all know that you live in Murfreesboro TN. Great spot, buddy. Quite the metropolis the 'boro is, and well known of course for it's high concentration of MENSA members. I'm sure you're one of them. I'm sure this is true despite the fact that you
7. tenuously grasp the English language and are
8. a failure
9. at both posting
10. and in life.
But, don't worry, one day you'll find the clitoris. Keep your head up. I know you will.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 5:06 am to Darth Slive
quote:I'd throw a dominant O line in there too. Love how a great D line can change the game though.
Great DTs and LBs. It's what sets the SEC elite apart.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 6:07 am to loweralabamatrojan
During Spurriers earlier days at UF there is a misconception that we were pass heavy..not true. UF didnt sling the ball around 45+ times a game. Most of the time no more than 30-35 passes were thrown and equal numbers of rushing attempts made.
We had Fred Taylor, Errict Rhett ands Ernest Graham as RBs during Spurriers years and all three played in the NFL.
True in the NFL it is a passing league with very stout defenses...but if you cannot generate enough rushing to compliment your 6'5" qbs passing attack.,...he will be 6'4" by years end from all the pounding..
In college football you must run the ball and stop the run to give your team the best chance to win. You have to control the trenches. When I watch games the first thing I look at is how well the OL & DL is doing. If the OL is having a hard time...then usually a team will try finesse tactics to offset pass rush.
We had Fred Taylor, Errict Rhett ands Ernest Graham as RBs during Spurriers years and all three played in the NFL.
True in the NFL it is a passing league with very stout defenses...but if you cannot generate enough rushing to compliment your 6'5" qbs passing attack.,...he will be 6'4" by years end from all the pounding..
In college football you must run the ball and stop the run to give your team the best chance to win. You have to control the trenches. When I watch games the first thing I look at is how well the OL & DL is doing. If the OL is having a hard time...then usually a team will try finesse tactics to offset pass rush.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 6:11 am to loweralabamatrojan
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I'd throw a dominant O line in there too. Love how a great D line can change the game though.
SEC offensive lines aren't appreciably better than those in any of the other major conferences. It's the talent that we have on the defensive line that sets us apart.
Believe me on this one, I had a bet with a buddy of mine (Michigan fan) a couple years back about the number of players the SEC put into the NFL at various positions vis a vis the B1G. Figuring out the winner of this bet was a bit of a tedious affair, but the results were clear. The SEC and the B1G were putting roughly the same number of players per team into the league at every position except one....defensive line.
And the difference was striking. My friend didn't even bother trying to argue away the significance of the discrepancy. It was at that point that I realized that "SEC speed" didn't mean that ALL of our guys all over the field were faster than ALL of their guys. Just a very very important unit of guys.
"Oh, so that's why Troy Smith invented the thirteen step drop that year in Glendale."
Posted on 9/19/12 at 6:19 am to dreaux
Dominate line of scrimmage, a must
A takeaway defense
Clock controlling offense
A takeaway defense
Clock controlling offense
Posted on 9/19/12 at 6:24 am to Ozmoesis
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You need an above average kicking game as well.
Chris Hetland (2006) wasn't very good for us, and we won the NC. Dude did step up big time against OSU, however.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 6:27 am to reel_gator8
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True in the NFL it is a passing league with very stout defenses...but if you cannot generate enough rushing to compliment your 6'5" qbs passing attack.,...he will be 6'4" by years end from all the pounding..
In college football you must run the ball and stop the run to give your team the best chance to win. You have to control the trenches. When I watch games the first thing I look at is how well the OL & DL is doing. If the OL is having a hard time...then usually a team will try finesse tactics to offset pass rush.
Keeping the NFL in mind,* how much rushing do you think is enough rushing?
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*And noting that last year the top teams were the ones that were the MOST skewed in favor of the pass.**
**Especially in the playoffs.
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