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re: JFF is better than Cam and Tebow

Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:02 pm to
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He still put up more stats as a freshman than Newton did in his junior year.


Don't forget that Manziel was a RS Freshman, which means that he was at least familiar with the personnel for a complete season before '12. Cam was a JC transfer, which means that he was working with the Auburn personnel for about 3 months before starting in '10.
Posted by ColtonH
Member since Mar 2013
228 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:02 pm to
I tend to agree. Tebow and Cam had weaknesses in their game, although both were beasts. JM can do it all very well.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14831 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:03 pm to
Cam and Tebow has championships, sooo...
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:05 pm to
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Cam and Tebow has championships, sooo...


Cam and Tebow didn't have defenses allowing 40+ on them, either. JFF would have been awesome on either of their teams, too.
Posted by Winslow
Boondocks
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:05 pm to
mett says wait a minute---
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
6743 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:06 pm to
He will never be. QB in the NFL

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66700 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Johnny is developing into a better passer than both
He reads coverage better, and throws a better deep ball


Cam was a better passer

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Johnny doesn't get sacked, ever.


False, and getting sacked is sometimes better than forceing it (3 picks v LSU last year)

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Cam had a good RB, Tebow had Harvin, Demps, and Rainey
Johnny doesn't have a good RB, he does have Evans but man that guy is slow, great deep threat though.



Cam has much much better Receivers than Cam had.

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Johnny doesn't have the defense Cam or Tebow had


And he loses an appropriate amount of games considered.

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Johnny does more with less much like Cam but Cam was A 6"5 freak athlete


Doesn't matter when it comes to better. Size is part of the game.
Posted by tjhilton
Member since Oct 2012
326 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:12 pm to
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He didn't lose to LSU cause of his defense.


JFF lost to LSU cause of his kicker - left 7 points on the table I believe.
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:17 pm to
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JFF lost to LSU cause of his kicker - left 7 points on the table I believe.


I'm sure those 3 interceptions and his 1.59 ypc average had nothing to do with the loss.

How many TDs did he account for?
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 1:18 pm
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:17 pm to
Both Tebow and Cam's collegiate career is over and to this point they were both better than Manziel. You know, the leadership and all.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95721 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:19 pm to
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Cam and Tebow has championships, sooo...
So does Trent Dilfer and Tee Martin, sooo....
Posted by Eagle of War
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:20 pm to
This debate can go on and on and on but most "sane" people would choose Cam. >>>> > JFF > Tebow. If you consider all other players equal it just solidifies the answer in question.


This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 1:22 pm
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:20 pm to
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JFF lost to LSU cause of his kicker - left 7 points on the table I believe.


This one sentence tells you everything you need to know about the typical delusional, out of touch with reality, mediocre Texan mentality Aggie.
Posted by Eagle of War
Member since Nov 2010
483 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:20 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 1:23 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95721 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:21 pm to
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Both Tebow and Cam's collegiate career is over and to this point they were both better than Manziel. You know, the leadership and all.
Explain to me how great Tebow's leadership was? Over 30 players were arrested at florida while he was there. The most in the NCAA. What a leader. Please dont let the media form your opinion
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:22 pm to
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Explain to me how great Tebow's leadership was? Over 30 players were arrested at florida while he was there. The most in the NCAA. What a leader.
Post less.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:24 pm to
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Explain to me how great Tebow's leadership was? Over 30 players were arrested at florida while he was there. The most in the NCAA. What a leader. Please dont let the media form your opinion

So his faith and easily apparent leadership is diminished due to knuckheads being knuckleheads. I got it. I wish I knew who you were so I can question your leadership when your kids frick up.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:26 pm to
That is the biggest piece of shite ive heard. Johnny is a better arse than Cam and Tebow.
Johnny won't make it in the nfl.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95721 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:37 pm to
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So his faith and easily apparent leadership is diminished due to knuckheads being knuckleheads. I got it. I wish I knew who you were so I can question your leadership when your kids frick up.
My point is, how in the hell do you know he is a better leader then JFF? You have no idea. You are completely going off what the media tells you. I just used the arrests as an example of how the whole leadership media driven angle is such hollywood bs
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38016 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:40 pm to
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To Florida 11-2 (7-1 SEC)


At home in College Station.

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To Mississippi State 9-4 (4-4 SEC)


On the road in Starkville.

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Thats a fair comparison


Indeed.

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