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re: JFF is better than Cam and Tebow
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:51 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:51 pm to GenesChin
quote:...who broke Bo Jackson's record for yards as a freshman RB (he wasn't close to being as good as Bo, but he was really good). Also, JM was a freshman last (did it make him less great?)... Also, it was the first year for the Aggies in the SEC - a serious undertaking.
Cam's "great runningback" was a freshman.
Cam was a freak.
JM is a freak.
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Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:53 pm to Eagle of War
SEC Total Offense records (Single Game)
1...576 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Louisiana Tech (181 rushing, 395 passing)..2012
2...567 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Alabama (103 rushing, 464 passing)...........2013
3...557 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Arkansas (104 rushing, 453 passing)..........2012
4...540 Archie Manning, Ole Miss vs. Alabama (104 rushing, 436 passing)..................1969
.....540 Rohan Davey, LSU vs. Alabama (12 rushing, 528 passing)..............................2001
6...533 Tim Tebow, Florida vs. Cincinnati (51 rushing, 482 passing).............................2009
7...527 Eric Zeier, Georgia vs. Southern Miss (-17 rushing, 544 passing).....................1993
8...525 Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky vs. Georgia (-3 rushing, 528 passing)......................2000
9...521 Whit Taylor, Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee (57 rushing, 464 passing)......................1981
10..517 Chris Nickson, Vanderbilt vs. Kentucky (71 rushing, 446 passing)...................2006
11..516 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma (229 rushing, 287 passing)........2013*
How many spots in the Top 10 will be left after this year? Cam doesn't have a single game in the Top 25 btw which is odd for a run/pass QB that is GOAT.
1...576 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Louisiana Tech (181 rushing, 395 passing)..2012
2...567 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Alabama (103 rushing, 464 passing)...........2013
3...557 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Arkansas (104 rushing, 453 passing)..........2012
4...540 Archie Manning, Ole Miss vs. Alabama (104 rushing, 436 passing)..................1969
.....540 Rohan Davey, LSU vs. Alabama (12 rushing, 528 passing)..............................2001
6...533 Tim Tebow, Florida vs. Cincinnati (51 rushing, 482 passing).............................2009
7...527 Eric Zeier, Georgia vs. Southern Miss (-17 rushing, 544 passing).....................1993
8...525 Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky vs. Georgia (-3 rushing, 528 passing)......................2000
9...521 Whit Taylor, Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee (57 rushing, 464 passing)......................1981
10..517 Chris Nickson, Vanderbilt vs. Kentucky (71 rushing, 446 passing)...................2006
11..516 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma (229 rushing, 287 passing)........2013*
How many spots in the Top 10 will be left after this year? Cam doesn't have a single game in the Top 25 btw which is odd for a run/pass QB that is GOAT.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:54 pm to madmaxvol
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Cam and Tebow didn't have defenses allowing 40+ on them, either. JFF would have been awesome on either of their teams, too.
The 2010 Auburn defense surrendered 337 points in 14 games for an average of 24.07 pts per game.
Cam Newton led this team to a 14-0 record and a BCS Championship.
The 2012 Texas A&M defense surrendered 312 points in 13 games for an average of 24.00 pts per game.
Johnny Manziel led this team to an 11-2 record and a Cotton Bowl trophy.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 1:55 pm to lsupride87
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My point is, how in the hell do you know he is a better leader then JFF? You have no idea.
Really? No idea? You would have picked a better argument using Cam. IMO Tebow is a better leader and it's not debatable.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:00 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Auburn's defense was about as good as TAMU's last year. Did yall forget that all they had was Nick Fairley?
Yes, but they had Nick Fairley. Who does aTm have on D? That scum bag always seemed to make a difference in the big games.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:01 pm to nofear67
quote:There is absolutely no possible way you have any idea about this unless you were a teammate to both JFF and Tebow. Its is scary how much today people just follow the media like sheep
IMO Tebow is a better leader and it's not debatable.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:06 pm to aggressor
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1...576 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Louisiana Tech (181 rushing, 395 passing)..2012
2...567 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Alabama (103 rushing, 464 passing)...........2013
3...557 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Arkansas (104 rushing, 453 passing)..........2012
4...540 Archie Manning, Ole Miss vs. Alabama (104 rushing, 436 passing)..................1969
.....540 Rohan Davey, LSU vs. Alabama (12 rushing, 528 passing)..............................2001
6...533 Tim Tebow, Florida vs. Cincinnati (51 rushing, 482 passing).............................2009
7...527 Eric Zeier, Georgia vs. Southern Miss (-17 rushing, 544 passing).....................1993
8...525 Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky vs. Georgia (-3 rushing, 528 passing)......................2000
9...521 Whit Taylor, Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee (57 rushing, 464 passing)......................1981
10..517 Chris Nickson, Vanderbilt vs. Kentucky (71 rushing, 446 passing)...................2006
11..516 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma (229 rushing, 287 passing)........2013*
Damn, impressive.
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1...576 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Louisiana Tech (181 rushing, 395 passing)..2012
2...567 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Alabama (103 rushing, 464 passing)...........2013
3...557 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Arkansas (104 rushing, 453 passing)..........2012
4...540 Archie Manning, Ole Miss vs. Alabama (104 rushing, 436 passing)..................1969
.....540 Rohan Davey, LSU vs. Alabama (12 rushing, 528 passing)..............................2001
6...533 Tim Tebow, Florida vs. Cincinnati (51 rushing, 482 passing).............................2009
7...527 Eric Zeier, Georgia vs. Southern Miss (-17 rushing, 544 passing).....................1993
8...525 Jared Lorenzen, Kentucky vs. Georgia (-3 rushing, 528 passing)......................2000
9...521 Whit Taylor, Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee (57 rushing, 464 passing)......................1981
10..517 Chris Nickson, Vanderbilt vs. Kentucky (71 rushing, 446 passing)...................2006
11..516 Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M vs. Oklahoma (229 rushing, 287 passing)........2013*
Well, shite.
As good as Alabama's defense has been historically, we have given up some epic performances. ETA: Hard to believe, Alabama actually won two of these three games.
This post was edited on 9/18/13 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:07 pm to aggressor
Lets just pit CAM vs JFF in hand to hand combat till death... The only weapon... A football. Who do you think wins.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:08 pm to rowdyreptiles
I love what JFF can do on the field but I would take Cam over him any day. He was just as elusive but his size enabled him to power through people. Not to mention he could sling it with the best of them.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:10 pm to lsupride87
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There is absolutely no possible way you have any idea about this unless you were a teammate to both JFF and Tebow. Its is scary how much today people just follow the media like sheep
WTF are you talking about. I'm beginning to believe you may be retarded. I have ears and a brain and ascertained certain peices of data listening to each individual talk and express themselves where I have observed body language.
My opinion of which is a better leader is not based upon the media and it surely isn't swayed by your weak fricking points.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:23 pm to nofear67
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WTF are you talking about. I'm beginning to believe you may be retarded. I have ears and a brain and ascertained certain peices of data listening to each individual talk and express themselves where I have observed body language.
My opinion of which is a better leader is not based upon the media and it surely isn't swayed by your weak fricking points
So, you are saying your opinion is based on what you have seen and heard on TELEVISION, but it isnt based on media? 
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:23 pm to rowdyreptiles
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Johnny doesn't have a good RB
Um, yes he does.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:25 pm to rowdyreptiles
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JFF is better than Cam
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:28 pm to beatbammer
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To Florida 11-2 (7-1 SEC)
At home in College Station.
After aTm's first game got cancelled and Florida had one game in already - big advantage.
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To Mississippi State 9-4 (4-4 SEC)
On the road in Starkville.
Come on now...
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:29 pm to rowdyreptiles
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Johnny doesn't get sacked, ever.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:37 pm to TigerBait2008
Tebow and Cam got rings..JFF never will
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:40 pm to beatbammer
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The 2010 Auburn defense surrendered 337 points in 14 games for an average of 24.07 pts per game.
Cam Newton led this team to a 14-0 record and a BCS Championship.
The 2012 Texas A&M defense surrendered 312 points in 13 games for an average of 24.00 pts per game.
Johnny Manziel led this team to an 11-2 record and a Cotton Bowl trophy.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:41 pm to Edearl Watson
quote:Trent dilfer got a ring, Marino never will. Tee martin won a national title, Peyton manning never will. Now do you realize how dumb this comment makes you look?
Tebow and Cam got rings..JFF never will
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:43 pm to rowdyreptiles
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Johnny will go down as the G.O.A.T
His last name is "Football" for a reason.
Posted on 9/18/13 at 2:44 pm to rowdyreptiles
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JFF is better than...Tebow
Maybe
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JFF is better than Cam
No
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