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Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:50 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:50 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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Yeah I'm mad
Ya that was odd, went to that game and it was a lot of fun. I was telling all the Tennessee fans not to worry that we would out choke you guys. Sister went to Tennessee and it was cool to see the town. A lot of construction going on.
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Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:50 pm to thunderbird1100
Not sure tbh
I get his point. Hurds the workhorse and Kamara's the change of pace/pass catcher. Without Hurd, Kamara's effectiveness goes down. He doesn't have he size/power to get out of the backfield under duress like Hurd does.
I just watch and drink
I get his point. Hurds the workhorse and Kamara's the change of pace/pass catcher. Without Hurd, Kamara's effectiveness goes down. He doesn't have he size/power to get out of the backfield under duress like Hurd does.
I just watch and drink
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:51 pm to Prof
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Because Alvin needs Hurd. He wouldn't do as well without him. Again it's that whole OL thang.
you're justy going in circles
Now Kamara is only any good because Hurd stinks and takes a few more hits to wear down a defense
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:51 pm to volfan30
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volfan30
You don't seem to grasp that playing RB is about more than toting the rock.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:51 pm to Prof
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Again it's that whole OL thang.
Tennessee finished top 20 nationally in rushing offense and averaged more YPC than Alabama.
Tell me why you're acting like the Sullins brothers were out there leading the way.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:53 pm to volfan30
^^You know damn well much of that was because of Dobbs. Our OL has improved, I've even touted that improvement throughout the season but they don't open holes.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:53 pm to Prof
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You don't seem to grasp that playing RB is about more than toting the rock.
you seem to not grasp averaging under 5 yards per carry means you are far from being an elite back
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:54 pm to tennfanatic
I like hurd a lot but as said, RBs are no longer emphasized and he will likely have Fournette, Cook and maybe Chubb ahead of him in line.
I think most projections only have Elliott going first round this year. He has all the things you like about Hurd (blocking, catching out of the backfield, tough runner) but also breaks 50+ yarders often
I think most projections only have Elliott going first round this year. He has all the things you like about Hurd (blocking, catching out of the backfield, tough runner) but also breaks 50+ yarders often
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:54 pm to Prof
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volfan30
You don't seem to grasp that playing RB is about more than toting the rock.
It is about blocking as well which I've already stated Hurd is very, very good at.
But the fact is Tennessee runs the ball almost twice as much as they throw it and Fournette averages almost 2 full yards per carry more than Hurd.
Simple math tells me it is better to have the clearly superior runner and serviceable blocker.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:55 pm to volfan30
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But the fact is Tennessee runs the ball almost twice as much as they throw it and Fournette averages almost 2 full yards per carry more than Hurd.
We have a dynamic rushing attack with our QB, LSU is Fournette and Fournette only.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:55 pm to thunderbird1100
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Now Kamara is only any good because Hurd is awesome and takes a few more hits to wear down a defense
You do understand this thing called change of pace? Different style backs? Running to the edge instead of up the middle? On and on.
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:56 pm to Prof
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You know damn well much of that was because of Dobbs.
Tennessee's YPC would go up without Dobbs included.
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they don't open holes.
This is a really silly to say about a team that averaged 230 rushing YPG.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:57 pm to Prof
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You do understand this thing called change of pace? Different style backs? Running to the edge instead of up the middle? On and on.
You understand the banger averaging well under 5 yards a carry is not "elite" right? Fournette does the same thing, even more so, and averages way more yards per carry. Henry in the same boat.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:58 pm to VFL1800FPD
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We have a dynamic rushing attack with our QB, LSU is Fournette and Fournette only.
This would be a good argument if we were discussing total yards but it doesn't explain why Fournette is much, much better on a per touch basis.
If he is all defenses have to worry about shouldn't it make it tougher on him?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:58 pm to thunderbird1100
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you seem to not grasp averaging under 5 yards per carry means you are far from being an elite back
We'll talk when Hurd has a line that can open a seam.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:59 pm to Prof
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We'll talk when Hurd has a line that can open a seam.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:59 pm to Prof
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We'll talk when Hurd has a line that can open a seam.
Maybe he should ask Kamara what seams he's running through
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:00 pm to thunderbird1100
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Maybe he should ask Kamara what seams he's running through
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:00 pm to volfan30
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volfan30
Same as you ever were.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 2:01 pm to volfan30
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This would be a good argument if we were discussing total yards but it doesn't explain why Fournette is much, much better on a per touch basis. If he is all defenses have to worry about shouldn't it make it tougher on him?
Im not really arguing either way im just throwing points out that I'm wondering about. Im here to learn
Fournette gets more opportunities for big plays because his line opens up bigger holes more consistently?
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 2:03 pm
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