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re: Jadeveon Clowney bench presses less than a punter at the NFL Combine
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:59 pm to Gus Bus Driver
Posted on 2/23/14 at 10:59 pm to Gus Bus Driver
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Just proves that JC didnt put the necessary work in the weight room to be successful.
How does it prove that? Look at the BP results I posted above...did all those guys fail to "put in the necessary work"? You're looking at some of the best DE/OLB players in the NFL...
Clowney may or may not have real work-ethic/drive issues...but his 21 reps on the bench-press doesn't prove or disprove anything. DJ Fluker put up 21 reps last year at 340 pounds. It means literally nothing. Most useless physical test at the Combine, bar none.
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:01 pm to Gus Bus Driver
quote:Why? Dee Ford had 3 years before he showed up. How do we know this wasn't a fluke year for him or something?
Ill take Dee Ford all day long
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:10 pm to CockRocket
Kony Ealy did 1 more rep than Clowney did while weighing in 7 pounds heavier BTW. Did he also fail to put in effort in the weight room?
This would be a story if he did 15 reps. 21 reps puts him right in the range of similar size/build players at his position who have gone on to post huge seasons in the NFL.
This is nothing more than confirmation bias. You've all been conditioned to conclude that Clowney is a lazy low-effort player to the point that you are now literally spinning data in an attempt to prove that conclusion.
This would be a story if he did 15 reps. 21 reps puts him right in the range of similar size/build players at his position who have gone on to post huge seasons in the NFL.
This is nothing more than confirmation bias. You've all been conditioned to conclude that Clowney is a lazy low-effort player to the point that you are now literally spinning data in an attempt to prove that conclusion.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:26 pm to metafour
quote:Wow. Rarely is there such a post that exudes as much intelligence and logical thinking as yours on this site.
This is nothing more than confirmation bias. You've all been conditioned to conclude that Clowney is a lazy low-effort player to the point that you are now literally spinning data in an attempt to prove that conclusion.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:47 pm to CockRocket
I'll take Spurrier at his word. If he says he wasnt putting forth as much effort as the other players on the team, then who am i to say different? Hell, i saw JC take himself out of football games because he was "banged up" ie tired.
As to Dee Ford, he was injured for most of his career at Auburn. Came in undersized, worked his butt of in the weight and earned his spot. He outplayed Cory Lemmonier in 2012 as well, but was injured early on and had to miss games. Hell, he was banged up for the first two games of this year and still outperformed JC
As to Dee Ford, he was injured for most of his career at Auburn. Came in undersized, worked his butt of in the weight and earned his spot. He outplayed Cory Lemmonier in 2012 as well, but was injured early on and had to miss games. Hell, he was banged up for the first two games of this year and still outperformed JC
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:49 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Clowney aint got that kicker swag
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:50 pm to CockRocket
Greg Hardy (281 pounds): 21 reps ... 15 sacks in 2013
Jarred Allen (265 pounds): 13 fricking reps. 13.
Tamba Hali (275 pounds): 18 reps
Ergo....non-story.
Jarred Allen (265 pounds): 13 fricking reps. 13.
Tamba Hali (275 pounds): 18 reps
Ergo....non-story.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:51 pm to metafour
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Clowney may or may not have real work-ethic/drive issues...but his 21 reps on the bench-press doesn't prove or disprove anything.
it certainly adds credence to the belief. I'm sure his own coach will set the record straight though
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:54 pm to tmc94
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:54 pm to Gus Bus Driver
quote:FIFY.
I'll take what ESPN said Spurrier said. If he says he wasnt putting forth as much effort as the other players on the team, then who am i to say different?
You obviously didn't hear the whole quote so I can't take you seriously. No one is gonna work as hard as Marcus Lattimore did, anywhere, which is who he compared him to. Spurrier also praised Clowney's practice ethic by stating he oftne had to tell Clowney to slow down and not go so hard so the offense could actually work through full plays.
quote:So when Clowney has bone spurs and sprained ribs its just "tired" yet,
Hell, i saw JC take himself out of football games because he was "banged up" ie tired.
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As to Dee Ford, he was injured for most of his career at Auburn. Came in undersized, worked his butt of in the weight and earned his spot. He outplayed Cory Lemmonier in 2012 as well, but was injured early on and had to miss games. Hell, he was banged up for the first two games of this year and still outperformed JC
Clowney worked his butt off as well when he first came in from high school to earn a large playing role racking up 8 sacks, besting that of Devin Taylor and Travian Robertson, both NFL DLineman.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:55 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
I intend to post that fricking gif in every thread about kickers from now until the end of time
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:57 pm to tmc94
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it certainly adds credence to the belief
How does it add credence? I just listed like 8 star-caliber NFL DE/OLB's of similar size/build to Clowney who repped out in the same range as Clowney's 21. In fact, many of them actually did less reps than him.
So by conclusion that must mean that every single one of those guys were also clearly lazy in the weight room. Didn't put in enough effort. Right?
The problem is that you guys seem to think that 21 reps is a pathetic number when in reality past results for the position show that that isn't even remotely an accurate conclusion.
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:57 pm to tmc94
Bertoswag is a blessing for all of us to share
Posted on 2/23/14 at 11:58 pm to metafour
you must have missed the part where a punter did 23
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:00 am to tmc94
Hopefully O Donnell cashed out right in Clowneys mug after he finished that last rep
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:01 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Pat O’Donnell, a punter from Miami (Fla.)
That guy is huge. Like 6'5 250 or something stupid. Refused to play any other position while he was at Miami.
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:01 am to tmc94
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you must have missed the part where a punter did 23
Which has what to do with Clowney exactly?
Jake Matthews did 24. 1 more than that punter. What a lazy, low-effort player. Clearly lacks work ethic to commit to the weight room. You're talking about a 308 pound OT that can only do 1 more rep than a punter?
Am I right....?
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:02 am to Henry Jones Jr
please don't fricking say he has long arms or the cocks will beat themselves senseless
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:03 am to metafour
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1 more than that punter
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What a lazy, low-effort player. Clearly lacks work ethic to commit to the weight room
That's not how it works doe
Posted on 2/24/14 at 12:05 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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