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re: Is there a more arrogant contract than Chiziks new one?

Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:17 am to
Posted by ChemicalXen
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:17 am to
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Saban: 43-11 @ UA


FIFY
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:18 am to
You gave opinions same as me,just more people around the country agree with me over you on Chizik...
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:19 am to
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You gave opinions same as me,just more people around the country agree with me over you on Chizik...

I'm fine with your opinion. You just go out of your way to express it often. I was just wondering why you care as much as you do?
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 11:21 am
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:20 am to
I mad bro....
Posted by MattP598
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:21 am to
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If you guys win 10 games this year I will put Chizik at god status...


You said where would we finish, and I said about the same spot bammer did last year. Fourth in the West douchebag.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:22 am to
For the sake of argument, since Saban is so responsible for every aspect of the team's success, would Saban be solely to blame for going 6-6 in 2007? Or since you place such a high value on assistants, would you say Chizik deserves much of the credit for leading the Auburn defense to a 13-0 record in 2004, or leading Texas' defense to an undefeated national championship the next season?
Posted by MattP598
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:23 am to
You just made his head hurt.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:31 am to
And we won 10 games last year and finished 4th...
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:31 am to
I hate to jump in this pissing contest, but let's set out some hard and fast facts.

Nick Saban is an elite coach. He and Coach Bryant are the only two to win the SEC at 2 schools and he is alone as a BCS winner at 2 schools.


Gene Chizik was an excellent assistant. His head coaching career is mixed, but he has shown that he can win big. He has a chance to join the ranks of the elite, but he is in no way whatsoever in their company right now.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:32 am to
When Chizik wins 10 or more games 3 years running,you can come talk...
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:33 am to
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Nick Saban is an elite coach. He and Coach Bryant are the only two to win the SEC at 2 schools and he is alone as a BCS winner at 2 schools.


Gene Chizik was an excellent assistant. His head coaching career is mixed, but he has shown that he can win big. He has a chance to join the ranks of the elite, but he is in no way whatsoever in their company right now.
You'll get no argument from me on that. I think Chiz has done an incredible job in the 2 years he has been at AU, but it is only 2 years. Only time will tell for sure how good he is.

FTR - no AU fan was comparing Chiz and Saban until TT brought it up. Just because Chiz isn't Saban, doesn't make him a bad coach.
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 11:35 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:35 am to
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When Chizik wins 10 or more games 3 years running,you can come talk...



Sorry, but how many times, besides the current streak(3), has saban won back to back 10 win seasons?
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 11:42 am
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:38 am to
I think he is a good coach, and he does what any good coach does...namely surround himself with great assistants. Coach Bryant used to say that he didn't want anyone that wasn't smarter than him.


I do, however, think that AU fans should temper their expectations. Cam Newton, or someone of his ilk, isn't going to walk through the door again for a long time. The kid from NC State isn't Cam. The high school kid isn't Cam. Chizik has a chance to show how good he really is now.
Posted by ChemicalXen
Alter, AL
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:38 am to
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Sorry, but how many time besides the current streak(3) has saban won back to back 10 win seasons?


Reaching?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:40 am to
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Reaching?


How so? the reference was made already, I was just asking the question
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:44 am to
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I do, however, think that AU fans should temper their expectations.
I think most fans expect 7-8 wins this season, with a chance to compete for the West again in 2012. Do you think that is overly optimistic?
Posted by ChemicalXen
Alter, AL
Member since Jun 2011
918 posts
Posted on 6/15/11 at 11:46 am to
Sorry, I didn't see the reference by other poster.
Posted by Crow Pie
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25421 posts
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:07 pm to
Just another example of Auburn inabilty to get past the little brother ayndrome.
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