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Is there a consensus #2 football program in the SEC, historically?
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:20 am
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:20 am
Obviously Alabama has been the most successful. But who is #2 alltime? Considering alltime wins, championships, consistency, NFL draft picks, and sheer dominance? Georgia, LSU, and Florida all have 3 championships in the last 50 years, but I hear Tennessee has tremendous history
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Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:23 am to MizzouTrue
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I hear Tennessee has tremendous history
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:26 am to MizzouTrue
10 years ago, it was Tennessee without question. Right now, it's a discussion between Tennessee/Georgia/LSU
Next year, #2 is Oklahoma
Next year, #2 is Oklahoma
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:26 am to MizzouTrue
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but I hear Tennessee has tremendous history
So do the Incas and the Aztecs.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:27 am to MizzouTrue
Not anymore.
It was Tennessee about 20 years ago. Now it's a toss up between the VOLS, Tigers, and Dawgs.
It was Tennessee about 20 years ago. Now it's a toss up between the VOLS, Tigers, and Dawgs.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:27 am to paperwasp
That’s the scariest thing I’ve seen yet on this site!
Don’t know whether to laugh or turn off my phone.
Don’t know whether to laugh or turn off my phone.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:37 am to Bama Bird
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10 years ago, it was Tennessee without question. Right now, it's a discussion between Tennessee/Georgia/LSU
Next year, #2 is Oklahoma
Nationally, Oklahoma can make the claim with NCs. But it would seem that SEC success has a lot to do with SEC championships as well. The Sooners won't be bringing their conference championships with them.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:38 am to MizzouTrue
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s there a consensus #2 football program in the SEC, historically?
consensus, no.
Up until the last decade it was unequivocally Tennessee with zero debate for anyone else. They've pretty much been the SEC's undisputed #2 team for many many decades.
But LSU covered enormous ground from 2003-2019, and ont he back of UGA now winning 2 more national titles the situation is quite muddled. Honestly, you could make a case that has some merit for any of those 3 programs.
It definitely isn't florida though.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:38 am to MizzouTrue
UGA and UT are pretty much even with LSU coming in close behind these two.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 10:39 am
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:43 am to skipjackbama
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It's still UTjr
UTenn claims 5 national championships, but only 3 of those are awarded from legitimate sources - and even then for 1 of those 3, the final poll was taken before the bowl game, which they ended up losing.
As for UGa, they claim 6 national championships, but only 3 of those are awarded from legitimate sources - and even then the 1980 title was awarded after UGa played only one team that finished the season ranked (Notre Dame, which finished in fourth place in the standings among independent teams), their entire 6-game conference schedule came against the six bottom teams in the SEC standings, and their non-conference opponents included the two bottom teams in the Southwest Conference standings and the 7th place and last place teams in the independent team standings. A 6-5 Clemson team (fourth place in the ACC), was their best out-of-conference opponent during the regular season.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:44 am to MizzouTrue
Here is how the 3 teams in question compare:
Recognized National Titles
UGA/LSU - 4
Tennessee - 2/3ish
SEC Titles
UGA - 14
UT - 13
LSU - 12
All Time Wins
UGA - 868
Ten - 867
LSU - 833
Bowl Games
UGA - 61
Ten - 55
LSU - 54
Bowl Wins
UGA - 37
Ten - 30
LSU - 29
Weeks ranked in AP
LSu - 649
UGA - 645
UT - 603
Weeks at AP #1
LSU - 38
UGA - 37
Ten- 19
Overall Win Percentage
UT - 67%
UGA - 66%
LSU - 65%
Do with this information what you will
Recognized National Titles
UGA/LSU - 4
Tennessee - 2/3ish
SEC Titles
UGA - 14
UT - 13
LSU - 12
All Time Wins
UGA - 868
Ten - 867
LSU - 833
Bowl Games
UGA - 61
Ten - 55
LSU - 54
Bowl Wins
UGA - 37
Ten - 30
LSU - 29
Weeks ranked in AP
LSu - 649
UGA - 645
UT - 603
Weeks at AP #1
LSU - 38
UGA - 37
Ten- 19
Overall Win Percentage
UT - 67%
UGA - 66%
LSU - 65%
Do with this information what you will
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:44 am to MizzouTrue
I agree with others here have said
Tenn fell off the mountain top pretty fast.
UGA, LSU, and UF have all dominated the last 20 years or so and have more or less caught or passed Tenn.
Tenn fell off the mountain top pretty fast.
UGA, LSU, and UF have all dominated the last 20 years or so and have more or less caught or passed Tenn.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:45 am to TheDude321
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As for UGa, they claim 6 national championships,
FALSE
We claim 4.
The school "recognizes" 7, as in they get a mention in the media guide. But '27, '46, and '68 are not even close to being "claimed" officially.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:48 am to MizzouTrue
It’s basically Tenner and UGA in a tie for second. In 2020 it was Tenner all alone in second.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:49 am to TheDude321
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ven then the 1980 title was awarded after UGa played only one team that finished the season ranked (Notre Dame, which finished in fourth place in the standings among independent teams), their entire 6-game conference schedule came against the six bottom teams in the SEC standings, and their non-conference opponents included the two bottom teams in the Southwest Conference standings and the 7th place and last place teams in the independent team standings. A 6-5 Clemson team (fourth place in the ACC), was their best out-of-conference opponent during the regular season.
this is hilarious. I'd love to hear a rational argument for who should've been national champion that year instead of 12-0 UGA?
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:52 am to MizzouTrue
UGA has more all-time wins, more SEC titles, and more divisional titles than UT.
UGA has more all-time wins, more SEC titles, and more divisional titles than LSU.
UGA has more all-time wins, more SEC titles, and more divisional titles than LSU.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:54 am to WG_Dawg
You should look at the records against the other Big 6.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 10:58 am to cajunbama
I don't have time for that but you can.
Bama/LSu own the series over us, while we have the series record against UF/UT/AU. Some of them bigly.
Bama/LSu own the series over us, while we have the series record against UF/UT/AU. Some of them bigly.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 11:03 am to MizzouTrue
If you take the entirety of history into account it might still be us. But I’m afraid it’s Georgia if you are looking at the modern era
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