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re: Is Tennessee the Ole Miss of the East?

Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12277 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:35 pm to
Yet again, I've popped into a thread only to find DJ beaten half to death with a circle of humanity pissing on his nearly dead body.

What a pathetic sack sucker
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
5471 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:36 pm to
Are you seriously dickriding another SEC school?

You know how I know you're an Ole Miss fan?
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:38 pm to
Now you have to resort to dickriding Florida because your team can't do shite. Sad. Ole Miss is trailing in their series against Bama, Auburn, LSU, UT and Georgia by 18 games or more.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Ansu Sesay
Omnipresent
Member since Dec 2014
812 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:43 pm to
UT never buried Alabamas program.

That was a stupid fricking statement
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:46 pm to
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Fun fact: Tennessee is 6-24 against Florida over the last 30


"I want to keep this focused on the present"...

If we want to go back to historical, we can do that too.
SEC West's all time records against Ole Miss:
Alabama - 47 - 11 - 2
LSU - 59 - 41 - 4
Arkansas - 34 - 28 - 1
Auburn - 29 - 11 - 0
Texas A&M (new) 6 - 0
Miss State - 43 - 63 - 1

Tennessee all time record against Ole Miss:
44 - 20 - 1

That's a shite load of losing records man... But you sure have dominated the egg bowl.
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I haven't been proven wrong in this recruiting debate

You wouldn't know... it's pretty clear you can't read. Your 4 year time frame simply doesn't provide any convincing evidence. By using literally any other metric, your case is not supported. It's like saying because you drank a gallon of milk and your herpes went away, that milk cures herpes. Do you even scientific method bro?
Posted by Dustin Johnson
Member since Nov 2015
1350 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:46 pm to
But we lead against Florida (12-11-1)
Posted by Ansu Sesay
Omnipresent
Member since Dec 2014
812 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:47 pm to
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Texas A&M (new) 6 - 0


Hmmm. You do realize we have won the last two meetings by about a combined 60 points don't you?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:47 pm to
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When you completely bury Alabama's football program for a decade like UT did come talk to us.

You referring to Fulmer being a snitch? I keed I keed.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:48 pm to
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fibonaccisquared


Since you have been quite nice in this thread I'll throw you a bone as well.

Georgia also leads their all time series with Ole Miss 32-12-1
Posted by Dustin Johnson
Member since Nov 2015
1350 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:49 pm to
Your metrics are irrelevant and in no way pertain to the point that I originally made. You misinterpreted what I said and refused to abide by any sort of time period, resulting in you overcompensating and condescendingly trying to prove some unknown point when, in turn, all you've been doing is posting a bunch of completely unnecessary malarkey.

You just look foolish
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:51 pm to
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Georgia also leads their all time series with Ole Miss 32-12-1


I intentionally left that one out. I don't want him to think it's a UGA v. Ole Miss thing here. I just find it amusing that he doesn't understand that what he's saying and what's been demonstrated don't align. Clearly, numbers are hard for Ole Miss grads (assuming?).
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:54 pm to
Why must we abide by a time period? Because your argument is blown to shite if we don't? Sorry our parameters aren't to your utmost convenience.
Posted by Dustin Johnson
Member since Nov 2015
1350 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:56 pm to
Because the time period is fricking relevant, you idiot. They've been recruiting head-to-head for 4 years
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:56 pm to
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Clearly, numbers are hard for Ole Miss grads (assuming?).


Unsurprising... if you can write your name on the front of the ACT you're already almost accepted there
Posted by Dustin Johnson
Member since Nov 2015
1350 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:00 pm to
My ACT score would've gotten me accepted into any institution in the Southeastern Conference
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12277 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:05 pm to
In the three years they have both had full recruiting cycles, 2014-16.........Wait for it.......

OM= 12.7
UT= 8.3

Now sit down and shut up
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:08 pm to
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Your metrics are irrelevant and in no way pertain to the point that I originally made

How so? If you can explain to me how average player rating is irrelevant, I'm happy to listen.
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the point that I originally made.

Speaking of, let's clear that up. Here is a brief synopsis of the discussion that was made through the first 2 pages

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Go ahead and list the SEC wins over the last for years as well. I'll help you. Tennessee would be 4-27 if not for sweeping Vanderbilt and Kentucky
wasn't the question in the OP concerning recruiting? Are you trying to argue Tennessee hasn't recruited well?

(missing the point of the post so an LSU poster called you out on it)
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Not as well as Ole Miss

(note: no mention of what metrics would be used here is made )
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Blah blah... inaccurate statement about going 0-fer in the conference...

Then there is some additional bickering about whether 2012 should count or not... an LSU fan calls you out and says that the classes are essentially the same but you're not happy with it.

Did I lose you anywhere? So essentially, at no point were there any agreed upon metrics as to what constitutes better recruiting... this is your problem... define the goal from the beginning. If you want to claim something that everyone's been telling you since the first page is accurate as some amazing win, go for it... it simply doesn't equate to what you think it does. By every metric I've provided you - all of which could be considered valid statistics when evaluating recruiting classes (I'm assuming you watched a bit of ESPN during signing day coverage and you heard discussion of both class ranking and average player ranking).

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You misinterpreted what I said and refused to abide by any sort of time period

No, you simply didn't state all of the qualifications that you wanted to use until metrics were presented and they didn't favor your narrative. Additionally, when I did move to your time period and used an average player rating from 2013-now (the 4 year time span that you preferred), Ole Miss still failed to out recruit Tennessee.

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overcompensating and condescendingly

I've had no need to overcompensate... but I did return the condescending language in kind, sure.

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prove some unknown point

That's the thing, it's been known to everyone in the thread but apparently you... that recruiting rankings are inherently subjective... there are a million ways to spin the numbers. One of them favors Ole Miss... essentially every other metric conceivable doesn't. Essentially, you trolled yourself.

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all you've been doing is posting a bunch of completely unnecessary malarkey.
You just look foolish

This is when you know you've lost... you throw a bunch of asinine shite out there that is 99% factually incorrect and then resort to telling someone else that they failed to present a logical argument.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69902 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:09 pm to
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My ACT score would've gotten me accepted into any institution in the Southeastern Conference





Yeah, but you would have had to take some remedial math courses
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:13 pm to
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Because the time period is fricking relevant, you idiot. They've been recruiting head-to-head for 4 years


Jesus you're dense. If I told you that we were going to run as far as we possibly could for a set amount of time... and I gave you 365 seconds and I got anywhere in the 60-90 second timeframe (no clue the exact date that Butch was hired), who would run farther?

Trick question, because you're a fat frick who probably can't get off the couch but let's assume you are reasonably athletic. Does that help to explain the mathematical basis for why 2013 is really an invalid year for comparison? When you look at Freeze's 60-90 second run compared to Butch's it also fails to win out and that was with the added bonus of having Derek Dooley recruiting in the SEC. Then even accounting for the incomplete 2013 cycle, Jones wins on an average player rating basis, which not only speaks to total talent but speaks to roster depth.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:15 pm to
BTW: If I see a single fricking UGA troll post out of you this season, I'm figuring out a way to make this guy look smarter than you at some point on this board. It will be a task but frick it, I'll do it.
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