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re: Is Alabama's defense overrated?

Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:46 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:46 pm to
yes, overrated. please tell gus this information.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15301 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

AU has outscored their 4 SEC opponents this year 120 to 118. Very telling stat.



Ah-oh well we don't want to talk about that now do we.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72183 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:49 pm to
And Georgia Souhern ran for nearly 400 yards against Alabama in 2011. Did that make them incapable of stopping "better offenses"? I guess not since LSU would cross the 50 yard line but once just a few weeks later.

The point...a unique offense/player that you don't see often isn't exactly the best litmus test. If LSU or Auburn find a JFF by kickoff I will worry.
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Nimbus2000
Member since Jun 2013
1250 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:51 pm to
Alabama 32
LSU 3
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22091 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:52 pm to
No
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:52 pm to
-Tennessee without the Bama game is 62nd in scoring offense (74th with). 20 points below avg scored on Bama without Bama game.

-Arkansas without the Bama game is 92nd in scoring offense (105th with). 23 points below avg without Bama game.

-Kentucky without the Bama game is 96th in scoring offense (104th with). 16 points below avg. without Bama game

-Georgia State without the Bama game is 114th in scoring (118th with. Yeah Ga. State sucks). 15 points below avg. without Bama game

-Ole Miss without the Bama game is 25th in scoring (46th with). 37 points below avg without Bama game.

-Colorado State without the bama game is 25th in scoring (40th with) 31 points below avg without Bama game.

-Texas A&M scored less than their average by 6, but their ranking didn't change (4th with/without Bama game).

-Virginia Tech without Bama game is 91st in scoring (100th with). 13 points below avg without Bama game.


So that means the average rank with Bama game is 73rd. Without the Bama game it's 63rd.

Teams score on average 20.1 points LESS on Alabama than they do in all their other games. Alabama has not once given up more points than the other team's average.


That's all for stats tonight.

Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 10:59 pm to
Is the Auburn offense overrated?? Defenses faced
and their rankings to date based on yds given up


Wash St - 96th
Arkansas St - 97th
Miss St - 30th
LSU - 24th
Ole Miss - 45th
W Carolina - would be 112th if they were D1-A
TAMU - 111th
Fla Atl - 58th

Average defense that Auburn has faced is 71st.

See how easy that is?


STATS! STATS! STATS!
This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 11:01 pm
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:00 pm to
Its not the best defense Saban has had at Bama but it is still the best defense in the SEC this year.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Is the Auburn offense overrated??


That wasn't the question of the OP. But since you asked, I don't know. AU has been lucky thus far not facing top defenses.
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3042 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:19 pm to
Not a sleeper at all. We will see. We will see, I say! :)
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Yes, they will be exposed eventually. Along with their O Line.


Only team getting exposed will be Auburn. I think we'll show the nation Auburn is about as mediocre as they usually are.
Posted by Neuromancer
Member since Oct 2013
749 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:21 pm to
A&M had a 21-0 lead on Bama in 1st Q. Then you had a good 2nd Q. A&M outscored you in the 4th.

Maybe you dont know much about football.

Your argument is that the worst defensive performance in the history of the University of Alabama and in the history of Nick Saban - is somehow good.

Ask Saban what he thinks about that performance - he will not agree with you.

You are not worthy of football discussions due to lack of knowledge of the sport. A&M game was a score at will.

Im glad you are proud of your D.

The difference in Bama fans and other fans - and why your fans get the dumbest fan tag, is because any other school would just say - yes yall blew our D up. We had no answers, thank god our O saved us. No you actually try to argue about the A&M O.

Out
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:25 pm to
Who said we didn't get blew up? We still won the game and that is all that really matters.

And they only got up 14-0 before we scored.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

A&M had a 21-0 lead on Bama in 1st Q.


Actually the score was 14-7 at the end of the first quarter. We tied the score fairly early in the second.

quote:

Your argument is that the worst defensive performance in the history of the University of Alabama and in the history of Nick Saban - is somehow good.


Who cares if it was good or not? We allowed over 600 yards of offense....and WON. How often does that happen in SEC play?

And since that game, we have only allowed 2 touchdowns to be scored. I don't care who you're playing - whether it be cream puffs or other SEC opponents - 2 touchdowns allowed in 6 games is very impressive.

If you knew anything about football you'd actually be able to appreciate that.

This post was edited on 10/30/13 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Hoovertigah
Fayetteville
Member since Sep 2013
3042 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:35 pm to
It will be an awesome game and no way Bama wins by 17 or more. Bama is not as good as last year and will be beat either the 9th or in the nc game for sure. Maybe both! If you make it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65055 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

Bama is not as good as last year


Disagree. This year's offense is better than last year's and the defenses are pretty close, with the slight edge going to last year. This year's special teams, however, are far and away better than last year's.

Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

It will be an awesome game and no way Bama wins by 17 or more. Bama is not as good as last year and will be beat either the 9th or in the nc game for sure. Maybe both! If you make it.



I know one thing for sure, comparing the two defenses it is very obvious one of them is definitely not as good as last year. And its the one led by a guy known as Third and Chavis.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

Is Alabama's defense overrated?


No.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:42 pm to
quote:


No.



Texas A&M is a damn fine offense when they are firing at all cylinders. And the way you guys are recruiting the defenders and owning your home state it won't be long until you guys are scary great in all three phases.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/13 at 11:43 pm to
quote:

Texas A&M is a damn fine offense when they are firing at all cylinders. And the way you guys are recruiting the defenders and owning your home state it won't be long until you guys are scary great in all three phases.


Appreciate it.

In all honesty, most Aggie fans (including myself) expected middling success for awhile until our recruiting caught up. The JFF phenomenon jump started that process, though. We'll see where we're at in a few years
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