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re: Is AJ McCarron the most underrated QB in SEC history?
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:31 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:31 pm to RollTide1987
Swope made two catches in that game where he took harder hits than Bell did. Are you saying that those were bad reads and throws?
Literally every coach I have ever played for has preached "if it hits you in the hands then you catch it. period."
It is a WRs job to be able to catch balls in the middle of field while sustaining possible big hits.
Literally every coach I have ever played for has preached "if it hits you in the hands then you catch it. period."
It is a WRs job to be able to catch balls in the middle of field while sustaining possible big hits.
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Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:32 pm to Funky Tide 8
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It is a WRs job to be able to catch balls in the middle of field while sustaining possible big hits.
Are you kidding? Bell never had a chance. A&M's safety had so many different combos he could have tried there. He just chose to do the boring thing and hit Bell really effing hard. He could have turned into mist, run right through Bell's body, and intercepted it if he had chosen to do so.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:33 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Swope made two catches in that game where he took harder hits than Bell did. Are you saying that those were bad reads and throws?
Neither are comparable. The only play possible was for the defender to make a hit. AJ's throw was so bad Matthews could have picked it cleanly if he wanted to.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:34 pm to TeLeFaWx
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AJ's throw was so bad Matthews could have picked it cleanly if he wanted to.
Matthews was coming in from Bell's left - the ball hit Bell on the right side of his chest.
Just how in the hell could Matthews have picked it off without defying physics?
And how is it a bad throw when it hits your wide receiver in the chest?
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
Its funny how he keeps focusing on this one play.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:35 pm to Crimson Legend
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Think about this. The greatest coach in college football history does not understand passing, but Telefawx does, because Bear Bryant (a college wide receiver) ran the wishbone for a period of time.
On the other hand, Telefawx does understand passing, because though he never coached a game, he is a fan of JOHNNY F****G FOOTBALL.
You're all being trolled... er... excuse me. Being FaWxed.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:38 pm to RollTide1987
My God, even the CBS announcers know more than y'all. Think about that for a second.
I also love how after the next play after a commercial break the brilliant Kirby Smart gets beat four 40 yars on the exact same route that the Tide just failed to execute.
I also love how after the next play after a commercial break the brilliant Kirby Smart gets beat four 40 yars on the exact same route that the Tide just failed to execute.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:38 pm to RollTide1987
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Matthews was coming in from Bell's left - the ball hit Bell on the right side of his chest.
He was coming in from Bell's right.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:40 pm to TeLeFaWx
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It is amazing how far y'all will go to act like he didn't make a glaring mistake...
You hadn't even brought up that play at the point in the conversation I was responding to. Thanks though.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:41 pm to TTsTowel
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Well, you see, these two guys named Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson just so happened to sign with LSU...and they wouldn't have even been able to be successful at Alabama, much less anywhere else. They were just terrible quarterbacks that you couldn't do much with. In fact, what LSU was able to accomplish with them as starters is nothing short of fantastic.
Both were top recruits, maybe their coaching/development wasn't in order?
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:45 pm to TeLeFaWx
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Neither are comparable. The only play possible was for the defender to make a hit. AJ's throw was so bad Matthews could have picked it cleanly if he wanted to.
I think I've been really wrong about you, Fawxie. You are sounding like a complete moron in this thread. You have argued with a straight face that 1) A&M intended to create a situation where a ball hit a receiver squarely in both hands, and 2) Matthews could have intercepted the ball cleanly, but chose to let the receiver put his hands on it first.
There aren't words for how moronic these statements are. Nobody is saying A&M got lucky, or that it was a bad call. We're saying that despite the fact that A&M may have baited the throw, the ball hit the receivers in two hands. When the ball hits you in both hands, you catch it.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:45 pm to TeLeFaWx
Which one is Matthews? Is he the one who delivers the hit from Bell's left? Or is he the one who intercepts it on Bell's right?
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Also...Danielson admits that, while the ball was thrown into coverage, it was a well-thrown football.
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Also...Danielson admits that, while the ball was thrown into coverage, it was a well-thrown football.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Also...Danielson admits that, while the ball was thrown into coverage, it was a well-thrown football.
I didn't say the announcers were 100% right, just that they were smarter than gump homerism.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:51 pm to Crimson Legend
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I think I've been really wrong about you, Fawxie. You are sounding like a complete moron in this thread. You have argued with a straight face that 1) A&M intended to create a situation where a ball hit a receiver squarely in both hands, and 2) Matthews could have intercepted the ball cleanly, but chose to let the receiver put his hands on it first.
They intended to create a situation where they would bait AJ in to throwing in to coverage, absolutely.
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I think I've been really wrong about you, Fawxie. You are sounding like a complete moron in this thread. You have argued with a straight face that 1) A&M intended to create a situation where a ball hit a receiver squarely in both hands, and 2) Matthews could have intercepted the ball cleanly, but chose to let the receiver put his hands on it first.
Look how slowly he moves in to position, and he was reading AJ's eyes and at first focusing on the other side of the field. Had he been more sure of himself, I have no doubt that he could have moved faster than the crawl's pace he was at and intercept that ball. He was in absolutely PERFECT position to either.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:51 pm to TeLeFaWx
Hey, dumbass, didn't he say it bounced off the WR's hands? Doesn't that imply incompetence on someone's part?
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:52 pm to TeLeFaWx
*to do either
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:52 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I didn't say the announcers were 100% right, just that they were smarter than gump homerism.
So you pick and choose with what you agree with to suit your own devices? Just shows you who the true moron is. I never said it was a well-advised throw. I simply said it was an accurate throw (which Danielson and anyone's eyes would agree with). And I also am of the opinion that it should have been caught as it hit the receiver in not one, but both hands.
You are of the opinion that Matthews could have defied physics to intercept the ball if he so chose.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:53 pm to TeLeFaWx
I have to admit, I thought I understood football until today. I never realized that a quarterback has to make a split second decision not ONLY if the receiver is open, but whether the receiver might get hit and pop the ball up in the air, because hitting him in the hands isn't enough against the mind-numbing Aggie defense.
When you face the brilliance of the Aggies, you have to be able to quickly assess the speed and impact of the onrushing defender. They are so athletic and brilliant that they let you catch the ball so they can hit you and make it bounce up into the air and pick it off. In the offseason, when the Aggie secondary isn't practicing football, they are putting in extra time earning their Physics PhD.
When you face the brilliance of the Aggies, you have to be able to quickly assess the speed and impact of the onrushing defender. They are so athletic and brilliant that they let you catch the ball so they can hit you and make it bounce up into the air and pick it off. In the offseason, when the Aggie secondary isn't practicing football, they are putting in extra time earning their Physics PhD.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:53 pm to RollTide1987
To go back to the OP, yes.
Yes, he is part of a football machine, but he is a key cog that helps make it go, and minimizes the mistakes that derail so many potential seasons-- at least so far. AJ deserves a lot more credit than he usually gets.
Yes, he is part of a football machine, but he is a key cog that helps make it go, and minimizes the mistakes that derail so many potential seasons-- at least so far. AJ deserves a lot more credit than he usually gets.
Posted on 8/25/13 at 3:54 pm to TeLeFaWx
I guess that's why our defense is considered so great. When we cover a receiver, we actually stay close enough that the receiver doesn't get to grab the ball before we do anything. I suppose we have a high standard for the term "covered", but that's just how we roll.
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