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re: Is AJ McCarron the most underrated QB in SEC history?

Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:13 pm to
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How many rushing yards and Tds did Rainey and Demps have vs Lacy and Yeldon?


I love how you continue to move the goal post back. Who cares how many TDs Demps and Rainey had compared to Yeldon and Lacy? Tebow got most of the rushing touchdowns for Florida in '08 because the man was a wrecking ball inside the 10 yard line. I simply proved to you that, as a pure passer, AJ McCarron was just as good - if not better - in his junior year as Tebow was in his junior year.

So tell me how Tebow is 10x the QB McCarron can ever be again?

This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:14 pm to
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This is what makes me insane. The first pick was far worse and a terrible read of coverage. Absolutely inexcusable. The second interception was a last second switch by the defenders, and 90% of the time that pick play works the second it leaves AJ's hand.


90% of the time, A.J. reads the coverage better than that. It was just a bad decision on his part in a short yardage situation with the game on the line. He's the one who chose to make that throw.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:14 pm to
Well, that very well could be the case but those players are transfers from A&M.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:16 pm to
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So tell me how Tebow is 10x the QB McCarron can ever be again?



An irrelevant point is about to be brought to you by thirdlawson
Posted by VinnieCeesChaser
Port a potty
Member since Aug 2013
165 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:22 pm to
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The only other QBs I can think that match him in tSECs history are Tebow, Newton, Mannings, Leak, Greene, Wuerrfel and Manziel



No Wayne Madkin or Romero Miller?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:22 pm to
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The first interception bounced off his receiver's (Kenny Bell) hands.


This is why I question the average gumps intelligence. It "bounced off his hands" because Howard Matthews had to take like 2 steps to rock his world... because AJ McCarron read presnap two deep, but the coverage was actually robber, in which case the hole in the zone for that seam route magically disappears. A high school quarterback that has ever thrown a ball in a safety's vicinity would have known not to throw that ball. Gumps need to watch more football. I swear every time a play isn't executed correctly, it is never due to their own player's incompetence.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22087 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:24 pm to
Everyone . . . try and stop for one day.

I'm actually in upstate New York today - sitting in a coffee shop, enjoying the sights and sounds of a Sunday afternoon. I'm about to leave to spend some time with my son, who is in college here. So, get off the computer, go visit some family, or better yet, take in the quiet tranquility of sitting shoeless in tall green grass on the banks of a lake or stream.

Enjoy the moment.

























Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:26 pm to
Bear Bryant was always fond of saying, "If it hits your hands, you had better catch it."

It was probably a poor read by McCarron but it was still an accurate throw and it was Kenny Bell's responsibility and job to hold onto the football, no matter what was about to happen to him.

Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:29 pm to
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Bear Bryant was always fond of saying, "If it hits your hands, you had better catch it."

It was probably a poor read by McCarron but it was still an accurate throw and it was Kenny Bell's responsibility and job to hold onto the football, no matter what was about to happen to him.


No. It was a stupid throw in to double coverage. Bear threw the ball 4 times a game and ran the wishbone.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
16214 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:30 pm to


Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:31 pm to
Yep...I had noticed that just a few minutes ago. The dude is probably one of the more successful trolls to come around here in a long while.

Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45144 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:36 pm to
AJ is the Ringo Starr of quarterbacks. You can probably plug in guys better than him, and his counterparts on his team outshine him. But at the end of the day, he's still a Beatle.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34070 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:42 pm to
I think until we see him at the next level, he is the Danny Wuerffel of the SEC. He may be great, he may suck. It is hard to tell when the team you lead is twice as talented as most of your opposition.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:42 pm to
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It was a stupid throw in to double coverage.


And yet it hit his receiver's hands and should have been caught.


quote:

Bear threw the ball 4 times a game and ran the wishbone.


That was only true from 1971-1982. In the 1960s he had some of the best QBs The University of Alabama has ever produced playing for him: Pat Trammell, Joe Namath, Steve Sloan, Kenny Stabler, and Scott Hunter. We were more of a passing team in those days.

This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 1:45 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:50 pm to
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And yet it hit his receiver's hands and should have been caught.


No.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:53 pm to
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AJ is the Ringo Starr of quarterbacks. You can probably plug in guys better than him, and his counterparts on his team outshine him. But at the end of the day, he's still a Beatle.


That's a pretty good analogy
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65016 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:54 pm to
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No.


Yes.

Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 2:06 pm to
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No. It was a stupid throw in to double coverage. Bear threw the ball 4 times a game and ran the wishbone.


Think about this. The greatest coach in college football history does not understand passing, but Telefawx does, because Bear Bryant (a college wide receiver) ran the wishbone for a period of time.

On the other hand, Telefawx does understand passing, because though he never coached a game, he is a fan of JOHNNY F****G FOOTBALL.

Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9057 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 2:08 pm to
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You're insane. 30 TDs and 3 picks last year.


Not hard to do with 2 RBs avg 7 ypc, 3 1st rounders on the OLine, wide open WRs and 8 seconds to throw. Did you watch any of the games?



I'm torn, because I do believe he's very talented, but he does have a lot of help. Most successful QB's do have good help though. Aaron Murray and Johnny Manziel have a lot of talent on their sides of the ball as well.

It's crowded at the top for the SEC QB talent, but it's a long way to fall…

Posted by deepdeltatiger
Myrtle Grove
Member since Aug 2007
921 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 2:28 pm to
Saying AJ is the most underrated QB in SEC history is a mighty bold statement for a one eyed fat man but underrated he definitely is. He manages the offense well, throws a nice pass, very catchable and is a fierce competitor. If LSU would have had him instead of JJ, JL and ZM in 2011 and 2012 we would have another NC or two. Don't care for the gumps but AJ has been solid to very good.
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