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re: Is AJ McCarron the most underrated QB in SEC history?

Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65010 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:29 pm to
Also...if it's so easy to QB behind a good offensive line, then why hasn't LSU produced an AJ McCarron type QB since Flynn left after the '07 season? LSU's recruiting mirrors our own in many respects and yet LSU can't seem to find a play maker to fill the QB spot despite the dominant line play, talented RBs, and skilled WRs.

Maybe you just don't give McCarron enough credit? I mean...he's only the third QB in NCAA history to lead his team to back-to-back unanimous national championships.

This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 12:32 pm
Posted by King Crimson
Houston
Member since Oct 2011
1024 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:29 pm to
As long as McCarron doesn't throw INTs, he's done his job.
Posted by Bassmanbruno
Member since Dec 2008
1440 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:33 pm to
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Not hard to do with 2 RBs avg 7 ypc, 3 1st rounders on the OLine, wide open WRs and 8 seconds to throw. Did you watch any of the games?


Gets it. Homer gumps gonna homer though.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65010 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:35 pm to
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Gets it. Homer gumps gonna homer though.


Does he? Then explain why LSU hasn't had similar success at the QB position despite having similar talent at the skill positions as well as the offensive line.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:36 pm to
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Is AJ McCarron the most underrated QB in SEC history?
Absolutely not.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91644 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:39 pm to
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Also...if it's so easy to QB behind a good offensive line, then why hasn't LSU produced an AJ McCarron type QB since Flynn left after the '07 season?
Well, you see, these two guys named Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson just so happened to sign with LSU...and they wouldn't have even been able to be successful at Alabama, much less anywhere else. They were just terrible quarterbacks that you couldn't do much with. In fact, what LSU was able to accomplish with them as starters is nothing short of fantastic.
Posted by 2poop
bama
Member since Sep 2009
4562 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:39 pm to
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TJGator1215

quote:

Other than Manziel and Driskel there isnt that match talent at the QB spot in tSEC.

Use English


troywew

"I can QB back of that line"

Use English
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
bunch of haters in here....every fan base in here would trade their starter for AJ besides A&M and maybe UGA.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Bassmanbruno
Member since Dec 2008
1440 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
Sorry but LSU doesn't have Cooper running wide open in the secondary like Bama does - and their line isn't near as good as Bama's has been. AJ gets a lifetime back there.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 12:42 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65010 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:41 pm to
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They were just terrible quarterbacks that you couldn't do much with. In fact, what LSU was able to accomplish with them as starters is nothing short of fantastic.


Granted. But your buddy said it wasn't hard to do when you have all of the other crap. You and I just proved to him that it still can be difficult if your QB isn't (at the very least) semi-competent.

Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:41 pm to
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Other than Manziel and Driskel


One of these is not like the other
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66383 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:41 pm to
he's pretty underrated
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29178 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:43 pm to
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He's not anymore. He gets his kudos from most knowledgeable fans, and while the criticism about him playing on loaded teams is valid as far as it goes, he makes excellent decisions (most of the time *cough*goal-line interception at TAMU*cough*) and, despite what people say, a mediocre quarterback can be the bane of even the best teams. See LSU 2011, the best team in BCS history not to win the title. Hell, one of the best teams, period. Certainly better than half the ones who did win the title.


This is what makes me insane. The first pick was far worse and a terrible read of coverage. Absolutely inexcusable. The second interception was a last second switch by the defenders, and 90% of the time that pick play works the second it leaves AJ's hand.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65010 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:45 pm to
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Sorry but LSU doesn't have Cooper running wide open in the secondary like Bama does





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and their line isn't near as good as Bama's has been.



See 2011 LSU. The two teams were pretty much even but, by the end of the year, AJ McCarron was the difference as clearly shown in the 2012 BCS National Championship Game. He had the poise, patience, and skill that Jordan Jefferson just didn't have.

quote:

AJ gets a lifetime back their.


I beg to differ. Western Kentucky sacked him six times alone this past season. The '12 offensive line was amazing at run blocking but they occasionally broke down in pass protection.





Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65010 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:47 pm to
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The first pick was far worse and a terrible read of coverage.


The first interception bounced off his receiver's (Kenny Bell) hands.

Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8619 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:48 pm to
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Two time and defending National Champion.


These guys won NC's too:

Matt Mauck
Craig Krenzel
Ken Dorsey
Chris Leak
Tee Martin
Josh Heupel
Greg McElroy
Jay Barker

I could name others, but you get the point.
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 12:49 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:48 pm to
Leak doesn't get much respect at all, even from UF fans.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:50 pm to
I think you believe you could actually do better than AJ don't you??? It's a lot easier to QB on a forum huh? Troll.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65010 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

These guys won NC's too:


How many of them won two?

Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22087 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:52 pm to
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Is AJ McCarron the best QB in SEC history?


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