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re: If the LSU HC job was open, would Bielema be a good choice?

Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:27 am to
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:27 am to
I didn't ask if you wanted them. It doesn't matter. We all know A&M is a destination job. Coaches are given everything they need to win and win big and are rewarded handsomely. LSU on the other hand nickel and dime their coaches based on recent history. I bet they won't make that mistake after having to pay Steele 1 M per.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:28 am to
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Going to practice my cheers the night before the with all male "yell leaders" would make me an expert. I tend to be more of an expert of female cheerleaders.


Sooooo...you go to cheer practice with the female cheerleaders only?

I am confused.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17034 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:29 am to
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at least it's something to get excited over


Moral Victory
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42947 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:29 am to
Mora from UCLA and at the moment Fisher would love to get out of Tallahassee
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:30 am to
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only one has yell leaders who dress up in all white janitorial costumes





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in any of the Big 3 sports, yes.



The rumor is RC almost went to LSU but didn't after the bonfire tragedy.

I think in the modern SEC head coach poaching is pretty much off the table. The money and opportunity is too similar unless there is bad blood for other reasons (like the Chavis situation).
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36620 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:33 am to
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LSU on the other hand nickel and dime their coaches based on recent history. I bet they won't make that mistake after having to pay Steele 1 M per.


I mean........that's one point of view on contract negotiations.

A naive and willfully ignorant point of view, but that is your right.
Posted by ArmyHogs
Your mom's house
Member since Feb 2012
9258 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:33 am to
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I think if LSU wanted Bert or Sumlin either would leave. 


You also said Chavis wasn't going anywhere so what do you know.
Posted by Orangeswarm
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2014
325 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:33 am to
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I'll let Bret stay at Arkansas.........


Respectfully declined

This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 10:34 am
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51836 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:36 am to
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Mora from UCLA


You don't want to go that route.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7730 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:36 am to
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bret's not downgrading to lsu regardless.


Bert will never finish higher in the SECW than LSU while at Arkansas.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95884 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:37 am to
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Think of all the corn dogs that fat sumn bitch could down in one sitting
But seriously, if he came to South La he would die in about a month between the food and the heat
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 10:38 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70927 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:54 am to
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I didn't ask if you wanted them. It doesn't matter. We all know A&M is a destination job. Coaches are given everything they need to win and win big and are rewarded handsomely.



hence all those NC aTm has and all the ones LSU lacks

aTm is a Ferrari with a 4 cylinder
This post was edited on 7/21/15 at 10:56 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70927 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:56 am to
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Moral Victory



LSU has plenty of real victories as well

2007 and 2011 come to mind

ya know, when we won the conference. When was the last time Arkansas won even the division? Seriously, when?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:18 am to
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hence all those NC aTm has and all the ones LSU lacks



In national titles was a criteria for getting a good head coach Minnesota would have a better coach than most of the SEC. They don't.

In 2015 what matters is money/resources, recruiting base, history and then facilities in that order.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18501 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:22 am to
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Its hard to pass over Steele. He'll have the D at an elite national championship level soon.
Aggies pray for the downfall of others b/c they think it will lift their program. Honestly, y'all are scared as frick of LSU being dominate with Steele. We already whip y'all arse on the field, plus we steal most of the good defensive players out of Texas. Any more success from LSU and y'all will be back to B12 status behind UT and OU in terms of recruiting Texas. I hate to say this, but even the gumps are now out-recruiting y'all in your own state!
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
25221 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:29 am to
Steele may or may not be a good DC for LSU. We will find out once the season gets going at full speed. I don't think any fanbase is too worried about what coaches they will face going into this season.

Even if zombie Vince Lombardi rose from the grave, shuffled down to Baton Rouge, and kicked Les out of his office to coach LSU this year people would be confident that they would beat him. Well at least until he killed an opposing coach and ate his brains.
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:30 am to
Chad Morris should be our next head coach
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34342 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:34 am to
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Aggies pray for the downfall of others b/c they think it will lift their program


Sure if it actually helps our program. Like for example OU being in the shitter would help A&M. A Crappy LSU doesn't help A&M. What is best for A&M is a strong LSU.

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Honestly, y'all are scared as frick of LSU being dominate with Steele.


I am personally concerned with what the coach after Les is going to do with all that raw talent Steele is recruiting.

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Any more success from LSU and y'all will be back to B12 status behind UT and OU in terms of recruiting Texas.


That makes no sense. The better LSU does, then the bigger our game gets with LSU. The bigger our game gets with LSU, the more the RRR is overshadowed and it's HARDER for Texas or OU to out recruit us no matter our level of success.

If what you are implying is that in the SEC we will be third (aka behind LSU and Bama) like we were in the Big 12 (behind OU and Texas) I will just point out that in reality it was very hard to us to stay in third place in the Big 12. Back then Texas Tech or Oklahoma St. could have a single good year or get a new coach and completely steal that third place for a cycle for two.

The more Bama and LSU recruit in Texas the more it becomes obvious to recruits that the SEC is the only relevant and worthwhile option, which means that our recruiting spot is more secure than its ever been.

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the gumps are now out-recruiting y'all in your own state!


The gumps are currently coached by one of the best coaches of all time with multiple titles. Even without our SEC move Nick has the ability to recruit nationally, and they probably could have still taken what they wanted from the state.

In reality these recruits were never ours to begin with. Without the SEC move they would have gone to Texas or OU anyway. Instead we have to see them go to Bama or LSU, but the end result (they aren't at A&M) is the same.

The difference is that now Alabama and LSU are taking food off of the plate of OU and Texas, and yall are hurting their programs. Eventually both of those programs and the entire Big 12 will face a real talent drain, which will reduce the level of play and therefore the (already low) reputation of the conference.

In the end it is a good setup for us when Nick and Les move on, because they will leave behind a legacy that only playing in the SEC matters to Texas recruits and coaches. That will give us a leg up in the future over our former Big 12 rivals no matter how they react, and it kinda builds a moat around our program ensuring we will never battle a Okie St or a Texas Tech for talent again.

Iron sharpens iron. I say bring it on.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70927 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:36 am to
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In 2015 what matters is money/resources, recruiting base, history and then facilities in that order.



pretty sure LSU is doing wonderfully in all of these areas.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7832 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 11:37 am to
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Arkansas is a destination job



Bobby Petrino left Arkansas to become the head coach of Western Kentucky. After that, he moved up to Louisville.


Think about that. Arkansas is such a bad job, Petrino turned down a $3 million salary to go coach at Western Kentucky for a year until the Louisville job opened up.

Louisville > WKU > Arkansas
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