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Posted on 8/3/13 at 11:43 am to RollTide1987
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And what point are you trying to make? That not every Alabama player drafted into the first round has turned into a super star? If that's the case then I 100% agree.
But do you know how very few NFL players actually turn into full blown super stars?
Again, how many schools create posters advertising the amount of money their NFL draft picks earn. Bama can't put out something like that and expect everyone to nod and agree? Yes your players get to the NFL but at that point they become no better than most despite the hype, accolades, and adulation
Posted on 8/3/13 at 11:51 am to nc14
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I up voted that.
Thx
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What year did Keith play for Nick?
Same year Aundray Bruce did i.e. neither has anything to do with this thread
Posted on 8/3/13 at 11:53 am to undecided
Lets face it. Nick is as good of a PR guy as he is a coach. He knows how to leverage the media (ESPN, Rivals, etc) to create a persona and image that is even bigger than him. Most people think its ego, and maybe so, but I think it's more marketing to create what he knows will help his program.
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Posted on 8/3/13 at 11:59 am to ehidal1
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Lets face it. Nick is as good of a PR guy as he is a coach. He knows how to leverage the media (ESPN, Rivals, etc) to create a persona and image that is even bigger than him. Most people think its ego, and maybe so, but I think it's more marketing to create what he knows will help his program.
And props to him for doing to but as a fan of an opposing team I can acknowledge the appeal of his approach while seeking counter arguments to it
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:00 pm to undecided
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Again, how many schools create posters advertising the amount of money their NFL draft picks earn. Bama can't put out something like that and expect everyone to nod and agree?
Expect everyone to nod and agree? It's an indisputable fact that they are making millions of dollars in the NFL. Whether they deserve it or not is really not a judgement we can make as we're not the ones forking over the cash. If teams didn't think these players were worth it, they wouldn't hand them so much green right out of the gate.
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Yes your players get to the NFL but at that point they become no better than most despite the hype, accolades, and adulation
And that's on them. Not Nick Saban. Rolando McClain clearly had the talent to be a successful player in the NFL but he allowed other things to occupy his time when he should have been concentrating on getting better as a football player.
Saban doesn't make teams take his players in the first round of the draft. There are a bunch of smart guys who make more money than you and me who grade these players and recommend to their bosses who the franchise should get. What happens after that player is freed from the clutches of Nick Saban and the Alabama football program is up to the player himself.
In college you are held to a strict training regimen with coaches knowing where you are at at all times. In the NFL you can do whatever you want, when you want, when you are not on the team's time.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:02 pm to undecided
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I Know Why Saban Players Fail in the NFL
You know less than Jon Snow. And he knows nothing.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
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Expect everyone to nod and agree? It's an indisputable fact that they are making millions of dollars in the NFL. Whether they deserve it or not is really not a judgement we can make as we're not the ones forking over the cash. If teams didn't think these players were worth it, they wouldn't hand them so much green right out of the gate.
If this were true there would be no ESPN, NFL Network, Sports Boards, SEC Rant, ect, ect. People have opinion about the stuff other people do and they like to talk about it
I've already said I agree with you, what more do want me to do?
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:16 pm to undecided
but is it just a Saban thing or an SEC thing? plenty of guys dont live up to the hype, appear burnt out, or get hurt a bit. not surprising considering they play a SEC schedule, then the SECCG and more times than not the BCS game. knowing your spot could be taken at any moment they are giving their all in practices. The SEC IIRC lead all conferences in NFL draft picks i think this past year.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:18 pm to undecided
I want your sorry arse to go away..You opinions are lame and jelly at best. 
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:18 pm to RollTide1987
quote:True words.
Saban doesn't make teams take his players in the first round of the draft. There are a bunch of smart guys who make more money than you and me who grade these players and recommend to their bosses who the franchise should get. What happens after that player is freed from the clutches of Nick Saban and the Alabama football program is up to the player himself.
I know Nick Saban is influential, but I don't believe that Saban could force an NFL team to take a player just because he hypes them up. NFL teams have their scouts, doctors, etc. that decide whether or not they want a certain player.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:29 pm to bigman334
I liken Bama players to Duke Basketball players and USCw QB's
Posted on 8/3/13 at 2:36 pm to undecided
Much of the measure of how much success a player has at the next level depends on the team that sellected him. Was he sellected by a very good team that moved up to grab that one final part to finish their machine (Julio and Atl) or was he the top sellection of a team that was bad and picked him to build around (Trent and the Browns). Julio had quick success as an addition. Trent may or may not have great success as a start. If you go back and look at a great QB of the past (Archie Manning) he was never able to be a great NFL QB largely because he was on a team that needed so many more tools before his ability could shine.
Saban gets players ready for his system. He has no say on how those players will be sellected or used at the next level.
Saban gets players ready for his system. He has no say on how those players will be sellected or used at the next level.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 2:45 pm to undecided
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Again, how many schools create posters advertising the amount of money their NFL draft picks earn. Bama can't put out something like that and expect everyone to nod and agree? Yes your players get to the NFL but at that point they become no better than most despite the hype, accolades, and adulation
But they have a fat paycheck, which I think was the point of the recruiting pitch... was it not? "Come to 'Bama and you stand a good chance of getting a big payday?"
Or are you trying to manufacture a meaning which simply isn't there?
Posted on 8/3/13 at 2:50 pm to cyde
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Or are you trying to manufacture a meaning which simply isn't there?
OP = Lee County Al Sharpton
Going 0-8 in SEC play causes massive grasping at straws.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 7:06 pm to Crimson Legend
Julio Jones and Trent Richardson declare your argument to be invalid.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 7:27 pm to skrayper
Don't forget Upshaw, four championships in five years.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 7:50 pm to undecided
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Again, how many schools create posters advertising the amount of money their NFL draft picks earn. Bama can't put out something like that and expect everyone to nod and agree?
Aahhh. So I was right. That DID get to you.
Sorry that poster, meant as a marketing tool, hurt your feelings.
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Yes your players get to the NFL
Which was the point of the poster.
Bama gets you to the NFL and makes you attractive to franchises coming out of college.
Man you're dumb.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:50 pm to crimsonian
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Considering most of Saban's top guys are just coming out, I would say it is too early to tell.
This is the correct answer. It's still too early to tell.
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