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re: Hypothetical: Would you rather McElwain or Butch as your school's coach?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:49 pm to bgator85
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:49 pm to bgator85
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Common opponents don't really matter..I'm sure that McElwain built a much better program in his 3 years at Colorado State than Jones has in his 2 years at UT.
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You're comparing your program to Colorado State?
I'm saying that everyone is talking about how McElwain turned Colorado State around...because they played a weak schedule. This is evidenced by them losing to a WAC school that UT beat by 31. I don't think the logic was that hard to follow. Who has he beaten as a HC?
The bonus is that he has lost to an FCS opponent as a head coach, so he is well prepared for the Shite-show he is getting at Florida.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:53 pm to WG_Dawg
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even the hapless zooker managed to luck up and beat UGA. Something butch has never done
UGA has beaten UT by a combined 6 points in Butch's 2 games against them, despite UT having little to no shot on paper to win.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:54 pm to VFL1800FPD
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UGA has beaten UT in Butch's 2 games against them
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:55 pm to WG_Dawg
Just saying, don't act like UGA has demolished UT under Butch. 2013 and 2014 could've gone either way, and were close, hard-fought games til the very end.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:56 pm to VFL1800FPD
I'm not claiming they were blowouts or anything. I think everyone with eyeballs who watched the '13 game though knows why that final score is as close as it was.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:57 pm to WG_Dawg
If you're gonna blame it on injuries, I don't want to hear it. UGA, even with all those injuries, was still a much older, experienced, and talented team than UT at its best.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:57 pm to Prof
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take a bunch of true freshmen and make a bowl despite having the worst OL in football,
This means less than nothing anymore. 78 teams outta 120 made bowl games, that's 2 outta every 3, 66%....
You went 6-6 in the reg. season winning 6 games with 5 of those being Utah St, Ark. St., Chattanooga. 3-9 Vandy & 5-7 UK along with a win vs 6-6 reg. season SCe...Nice win vs. 7-5 reg season Iowa.
The jury is def. still out...you beat 3 teams with a winning record, a Mountain West team(9-4), a Sun Belt team(7-5) & a B1G team(7-5) with a winning reg season...
Butch needs to beat somebody this year...
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:59 pm to dallasga6
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Butch needs to beat somebody this year...
Nobody is going to disagree with you on that one. We've got to get a big win this season or the fanbase will start turning.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:00 pm to VFL1800FPD
quote:If you guys win 8-9 with 1-2 big SEC wins(UGA/UF/Bama), I'll become a believer...
Nobody is going to disagree with you on that one. We've got to get a big win this season or the fanbase will start turning.
This post was edited on 5/8/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:01 pm to madmaxvol
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I'm saying that everyone is talking about how McElwain turned Colorado State around...because they played a weak schedule. This is evidenced by them losing to a WAC school that UT beat by 31. I don't think the logic was that hard to follow. Who has he beaten as a HC?
The bonus is that he has lost to an FCS opponent as a head coach, so he is well prepared for the Shite-show he is getting at Florida.
You are dumb. CSU has been historically bad this decade, even by their standards. He took a team that went 3-9, 7-6, 3-9, 3-9, 3-9 before he took over. He then turned them around and they had their first 10 win season in 13 years.
Let's compare apples to apples here...
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:02 pm to WG_Dawg
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I'm not claiming they were blowouts or anything. I think everyone with eyeballs who watched the '13 game though knows why that final score is as close as it was.
You were lucky as shite to have won that game
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:02 pm to madmaxvol
You mean the CSU football that went 3-9 4 of the 5 years prior, Then they improved each year with 10 wins in his third year?
Your comparison was ridiculous. Of course he won't have any big wins as coach of CSU.
They also beat UTAH State by the way.
I said I would take jones, but JMac can coach the game. He did a good job at CSU and it is lame to try and do what you are doing.
Your comparison was ridiculous. Of course he won't have any big wins as coach of CSU.
They also beat UTAH State by the way.
I said I would take jones, but JMac can coach the game. He did a good job at CSU and it is lame to try and do what you are doing.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:07 pm to GeauxToBed
Butch. More experience and I at least know that he can recruit at an elite level.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:08 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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You were lucky as shite to have won that game
No, you were lucky to even be in it. I mean think of it this way, if our buses crashed on the way to a game and all 22 starters broke their leg and we had to play our 2nd and 3rd stringers the whole game, would that be an "excuse" for the outcome of the game? No..it would simply be what happened. It would be an undeniable reason for the game to play out the way it did.
Back to our game. We were up 17-3 at halftime and the game wasn't even really that close. Gurley was already out then our backup blew his knee out. So we played the 2nd half with our 3rd string RB and a 4th string walkon. Already without our #1 receiver Mitchell (clemson), our #2 and #3 receivers (bennett and JSW) went out with injuries as well. Now we're starting our 4th and 5th string receivers. Our punter was also concussed and had to leave the game. Do you REALLY, all trolling aside, not see how that would contribute to tennessee staying in the game?
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:10 pm to WG_Dawg
Like I said earlier, UGA, even with all those injuries, was still a much older, experienced, and talented team than UT at its best.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:13 pm to VFL1800FPD
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UGA, even with all those injuries, was still a much older, experienced, and talented team than UT at its best.
You're saying our 3rd and 4th string (walkon) RBs and 4th and 5th string WRs are of comparable talent to UT's starters? Also remember this was a grantham defense that was one of the worst we've had in the modern era. If you beleive that, then I may have underestimated just how bad a shape dooley left you in.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:15 pm to GeauxToBed
Mac easily. Butch is a better coach than only 2 other in the SEC.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:20 pm to WG_Dawg
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If you beleive that, then I may have underestimated just how bad a shape dooley left you in.
It was bad, man, real bad. I still think that UGA team with the injuries was better than the complete UT team. We were a collection of Butch's first recruiting class and the losers that Dooley had recruited. We had one legit starter at most positions with nonexistent depth. Of course, everyone has homer bias. And regardless that was still my favorite game I've seen live, that punt block still gives me chills when I watch it.
Posted on 5/8/15 at 4:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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Do you REALLY, all trolling aside, not see how that would contribute to tennessee staying in the game?
All trolling aside, I do see how it could contribute to Tennessee staying in the game. Do you not see how an incredibly lucky break contributed to Georgia winning that game? All trolling aside?
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