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re: Hypothetical: Would you rather McElwain or Butch as your school's coach?

Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:34 pm to
This season will tell a lot about Butch. It's do or die time.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:41 pm to
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LSUsuperfresh


So if you had to choose one to take over for Miles which one do you pick?
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 2:59 pm to
Jones - He's proven he can rebuild from a hiroshima sized dumpster fire, take a bunch of true freshmen and make a bowl despite having the worst OL in football, a completely new OL and DL, and get better each year. His recruiting is stellar. He brings a lot of positive and creative energy to a program that needed it badly after the Kiff-Dooley years. His teams have been better every year despite the end results. Here's a hard example of that: going by memory the 2013 year defense was ranked in the 60s but in 2014 it was top 30 or so. However, that's happened all over the field.

The wins will come but so far he's had to put out the thermonuclear bomb that went off in Knoxville and clean up hasn't been easy. We are almost there tho. And so far he's done everything else right.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:01 pm to
Butch is 0-2 against muschamp, and 0-1 against Dooley. Otherwise known as the two of the worst SEC coaches in the past decade.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:02 pm to
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Nguyening


So is that a vote for Mac?
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:08 pm to
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I'll take the guy who didn't go 0-2 against the legendary combo of Driskel and Muschamp.


You mean you want the guy who lost to an FCS opponent? Figures...that goes over well down there.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:08 pm to
McElwain
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7004 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:12 pm to
Tough decision. Since neither is going to win the decision must be based on looks. Do you want a coach that looks like Sgt Carter from Gomer Pyle of a coach that looks like a chipmonk?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:23 pm to
Easily Mcelwain. He hasn't been incredibly average in the SEC like Butch has been.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:26 pm to
McElwain showed he could be successful by turning around Colorado State last year. They beat a 10-4 Utah State team by 3 points...no, wait...Utah State won that game.

No big deal...Utah State blew out UT by 31...oh...wait...UT won that game by 31.

Common opponents don't really matter...I'm sure that McElwain built a much better program in his 3 years at Colorado State than Jones has in his 2 years at UT.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:29 pm to
As long as neither look like Helen Hunt ill be okay
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:29 pm to
So far it's too close to call. On those who gave a clear answer I've got it at about a 50-50 right now... Toss up.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15817 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:34 pm to
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McElwain showed he could be successful by turning around Colorado State last year. They beat a 10-4 Utah State team by 3 points...no, wait...Utah State won that game. 

No big deal...Utah State blew out UT by 31...oh...wait...UT won that game by 31. 

Common opponents don't really matter...I'm sure that McElwain built a much better program in his 3 years at Colorado State than Jones has in his 2 years at UT.


Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:35 pm to
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Common opponents don't really matter..I'm sure that McElwain built a much better program in his 3 years at Colorado State than Jones has in his 2 years at UT.


You're comparing your program to Colorado State?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:37 pm to
Horrible comparison. You're saying TN is on the same level as a CSU with talent.

You guys really do have TNPTSD
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:37 pm to
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I compare Butch Jones to Ron Zook.


even the hapless zooker managed to luck up and beat UGA. Something butch has never done.
Posted by CJM
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:38 pm to
I think he did...


Just point and laugh.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:40 pm to
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CJM


hey coach
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:41 pm to
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even the hapless zooker managed to luck up and beat UGA. Something butch has never done.




And he's had so many chances, with comparable talent too
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 5/8/15 at 3:45 pm to
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And he's had so many chances,


well he's 0-2, while zook's first 2 years went 2-0 against much better UGA teams at that.
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