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re: How UF fell with Urban
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:58 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:58 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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skipping classes
Sounds like he's running a tight ship. 3 years in. Players will do what they think they can get away with.
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smoking pot in the offseason...both in-house Ohio State AD rules..not NCAA, not B10..and certainly not SEC
Probably should have a clue before you start down that assumption path again. At Bama the first failed test results in a signed contract by the student athlete that admits to the issue, the team discipline, enters into a substance abuse program, and is communicated the consequences upon future failed tests.
A 2nd failed test results in missing 15% of athletic season is missed for a 2nd failed test, which could mean 2 games in football.
3rd failed test results in one year suspension from athletics.
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 2:59 pm to KajunGator
btw..Fowler..besides writing occasional hack pieces like this..has been relegated to the Cleveland Browns beat writer. It doesn't get much lower. Maybe Meyer had a hand in that? I hope so.. Fowler's career is like Dennis Franchione's after Bama or maybe Mike Price.
There are many articles about Meyer that are completely different than this one.
There are many articles about Meyer that are completely different than this one.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:01 pm to Jorts R Us
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Um, funny how the arrests went down when Urban's recruits left.
ummm..funny how South Carolina's have gone up since Spurrier arrived. Maybe he started recruiting more Fla HS players?
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:02 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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The thuggery at Fla would wear on anyone. Hell, Spurrier wanted no part in going back there..ya think maybe it is a Fla problem?
I have to challenge your ignorance on that one. Before Meyer, UF was not a thug school at all. In fact, Miami wore it proudly. Florida State wore it with jovial good ol' boy dismissal (it's not like he shot the president).
Meyer goes there, and Tebow saved the program from total embarrassment. Meyer's lack of character showed in the players he recruited. His inconsistent favoritism and coddling of star players was the unraveling.
As for your own Ahia State, you have no right to point fingers. Until last year, your only bowl win against an SEC team was bought as you paid to have your ineligible players play. You have your own problems. And, true character always emerges. Eventually, Meyer will show his real face and you won't be able to tell if it is his butt or his face until the damage is done. Good luck with that.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:07 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
Well, it is obvious that you have something against Florida and Spurrier. I don't really care, but it is easily identifiable. For the record, Spurrier is the winningest coach at USCe. If you are going to rant, please at least do it without such obvious bias and lack of knowledge.
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:07 pm to TheRaid
I don't know why Buckeye fans are being such bitches about this. Meyer himself would admit he didn't handle UF well. He brought in too many guys who were "marginal" in regards to character. Maybe he is doing that at OSU, maybe he isn't.
There haven't been any hints of that happening as of now that I know of
There haven't been any hints of that happening as of now that I know of
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:09 pm to bamasgot13
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Probably should have a clue before you start down that assumption path again. At Bama the first failed test results in a signed contract by the student athlete that admits to the issue, the team discipline, enters into a substance abuse program, and is communicated the consequences upon future failed tests.
probably random like at OSU too...not given advance notice
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:09 pm to Buckeye06
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I don't know why Buckeye fans are being such bitches about this. Meyer himself would admit he didn't handle UF well. He brought in too many guys who were "marginal" in regards to character. Maybe he is doing that at OSU, maybe he isn't.
There hasn't been any hints of that happening as of now that I know of
A reasonable Buckeye. Nice to meet you. You are the only one I have ever met on any message board since I started on message boards in 1996.
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Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:18 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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ummm..funny how South Carolina's have gone up since Spurrier arrived. Maybe he started recruiting more Fla HS players?
So what's your point? That recruits from Florida are more likely to be thugs? Cool. Tell your ball coach to stay out of the state then.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:22 pm to TheRaid
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As for your own Ahia State, you have no right to point fingers. Until last year, your only bowl win against an SEC team was bought as you paid to have your ineligible players play. You have your own problems. And, true character always emerges. Eventually, Meyer will show his real face and you won't be able to tell if it is his butt or his face until the damage is done. Good luck with that.
bought and paid for...and you claim to have a clue about what's real in cfb? Those players sold their own stuff for a service (tattoos) at an actual loss of net worth on the market. Ohio State didn't give them a dime. iT WAS THEIR OWN PROPERTY...what is so hard to understand about that whole deal...in the meantime..SEC players like Johnny Foozball sell their own signature for $$...and nothing is done? and we won't even get into Scam newton. But again..just like Fowler's hack job...your twisted view is OSU paid them...never met an SEC fan that used logic in an argument with an OSU fan.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 4:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Honestly our fan base annoys me with the Meyer complaints. It's time to move on. He was dominate, and won two national titles here. Did he leave us in bad shape? Yes. Did he also leave us with enough talent to win a national title? You're darn right. That 2012 team was LOADED, it's not Meyers fault Muschamp couldn't take a team with talent everywhere and win. Sure the Oline had holes and WR recruiting was average at the end, but the talent was there. If we had a good OC, that 2012 team SHOULD have been in the national title game.
Time to move on. Muschamp did far more damage than Meyer did end of story. Meyer cheated on us in the end, but it was damn good sex while he was here.
Time to move on. Muschamp did far more damage than Meyer did end of story. Meyer cheated on us in the end, but it was damn good sex while he was here.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 4:37 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Meh. Second to last year: Saban at LSU, 13 wins, won Sugar Bowl Meyer at UF, 13 wins, won Sugar Bowl Last year: Saban at LSU 9 wins, lost bowl game Meyer at UF, 8 wins, won bowl game
Seasons were only 11 games in 2004. So LSU has one less cupcake win right there. 10-3 vs 8-5 is a HUGE difference.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 4:47 pm to Buckeye06
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If OSU was mediocre for 6 years after winning 2 titles...I'd live
Florida hasn't been mediocre.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 4:48 pm to bgator85
Even at Florida he would always talk about his dream jobs, which really rubbed me the wrong way. He said Ohio State, Penn State, and Notre Dame. THANK GOD he's not at Penn State
Posted on 9/17/15 at 4:49 pm to Buckeye06
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I don't know why Buckeye fans are being such bitches about this. Meyer himself would admit he didn't handle UF well. He brought in too many guys who were "marginal" in regards to character. Maybe he is doing that at OSU, maybe he isn't.
And therein lies the key. As much as some like to point fingers at coaches and programs....nobody really knows until the damage is done, or is not done. You recruit, then you cross your fingers. Auburn has picked up several players with sketchy pasts and the players turned out fine.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 4:52 pm to PAGator
That article was very embarrassing.
Urban is a douche. I'm glad he is gone. Thank God Tebow is the saving grace of those years, otherwise it would even be more embarrassing to read that now.
I'm glad he is at OSU, they deserve him.
And yes Muschimp damaged us more, but at least the culture improved.
I hope coach Mac is what we believe he is. 1% or the 1% proved to be too much bullchit.
Urban is a douche. I'm glad he is gone. Thank God Tebow is the saving grace of those years, otherwise it would even be more embarrassing to read that now.
I'm glad he is at OSU, they deserve him.
And yes Muschimp damaged us more, but at least the culture improved.
I hope coach Mac is what we believe he is. 1% or the 1% proved to be too much bullchit.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 5:01 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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Those players sold their own stuff for a service (tattoos) at an actual loss of net worth on the market.
If that were the only incident.....but it wasn't. Let's not forget about the summer job fiasco where players were being paid for not working.
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And the three that received impermissable benefits amounting to less than $300. And those players that gave up their stuff for tattoos? They also got cash.
I guess you forgot that part. And then there was the memorabilia for cash thingy.
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However, we all know that Ohio State is not the only school that has had problems. (Gurley for us)
It seems hypocritical for anybody to point fingers.
I hope Ohio State is keeping a close eye on Meyer, though, as he seems to be willing to turn a blind eye to MAJOR problems from his star players. Harvin choking a coach. Aaron Hernandez who...well, we all know what he did at Florida and at New England.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 5:05 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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Ohio State didn't give them a dime.
What school does? Typically it is done through agents and/or boosters....such as the case with Ohio State.
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SEC players like Johnny Foozball sell their own signature for $$...and nothing is done?
Apparently you forget about Todd Gurley who lost half his season. Oh....and if you follow my links in my other post, I think some Ohio State players got caught in a selling memorabilia thing, too.
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your twisted view is OSU paid them.
I think most people know a school isn't going to pay the players directly. But we also know that most schools know which boosters are more likely to give improper benefits to kids and the school still allows access to those athletes.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 5:46 pm to VABuckeye
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The rumor mill is a couple for weed and a couple for shirking academic responsibilities.
Which is something you are suspended for in the SEC as well.
Posted on 9/17/15 at 5:51 pm to Buckeye06
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I just think when you're at the top of the mountain you don't have to take as many chances. but, as said, 5 years from now is when stories would come out realistically
Well admittedly he doesn't have to try as hard to stay on top at OSU, that's the benefit of being in a cream puff conference-- its like FSU in the ACC in the 90s-- yeah they were good and sometimes great but there's a reason no other team no matter how good ever finished in the top 5 every single year for more than a decade. In Columbus Urban's team can roll out its C game and still win going away whereas in Gainesville doing that even with arguably the best college football team since Nebraska in 1995 gets you beat at home since you play a ranked team every other week or so.
This post was edited on 9/18/15 at 12:23 am
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