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re: How long does Deboer get before Bama brings
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:29 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:29 pm to imjustafatkid
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I'm betting he will be at least as successful as Les Miles was after Saban left LSU.
I think a lot depends on how they look this year.
If they had a disaster and went like 8-4, I think the transfer portal would turn on them.
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:35 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I think a lot depends on how they look this year.
If they had a disaster and went like 8-4, I think the transfer portal would turn on them.
How heavily do you think BAMA needs to rely on the magic portal? Recruits are still streaming to the Capstone and as of Tuesday, we have 86 players on scholarship. This idea that there has been some mass exodus after Coach Saban retired is still total nonsense. BAMA will still have top 3 talent in the country. Saying otherwise, in thread after thread, is just wishful thinking by teams that have rightfully grown to fear us.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:37 pm to bamameister
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How heavily do you think BAMA needs to rely on the magic portal? Recruits are still streaming to the Capstone and as of Tuesday, we have 86 players on scholarship. This idea that there has been some mass exodus after Coach Saban retired is still total nonsense. BAMA will still have top 3 talent in the country. Saying otherwise, in thread after thread, is just wishful thinking by teams that have rightfully grown to fear us.
I don't think you've had a mass exodus, I do think you'd have one if the team struggles in 2024 though
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I don't think you've had a mass exodus, I do think you'd have one if the team struggles in 2024 though
Then you don't know BAMA history. We have brought supreme talent to Tuscaloosa when our head coach wasn't named Coach Bryant and Coach Saban. Schools like Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, and ALABAMA have all changed management plenty of times. These organizations get college football better than most and always have. I personally have been to a lot of National Championship parades before I ever heard of Coach Saban. Keep dreaming.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:45 pm to bamameister
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Then you don't know BAMA history. We have brought supreme talent to Tuscaloosa when our head coach wasn't named Coach Bryant and Coach Saban. Schools like Oklahoma, Ohio State, USC, and ALABAMA have all changed management plenty of times. These organizations get college football better than most and always have. I personally have been to a lot of National Championship parades before I ever heard of Coach Saban. Keep dreaming.
What advantage does Alabama have over anyone else recruiting elite talent today?
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
Bama is Bama. That is the only real response they have.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What advantage does Alabama have over anyone else recruiting elite talent today?
Almost every thing.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:54 pm to 3down10
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Almost every thing.
Like what?
Posted on 4/24/24 at 4:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
[quote]What advantage does Alabama have over anyone else recruiting elite talent today?[/quote
You root for a regional program. If you couldn't pluck talent from a talent-rich state you couldn't exist.
ALABAMA is a national brand. It is the gold standard of college football. You can wish and hope all you like but the recruiting ranking and portal tell the same tale. BAMA gets who they want. We didn't like our kicker during spring ball, so we got the Lou Groza winner. We need a cornerback, we get 5-star Domani Jackson. We need a safety, we get Saab from Michigan. We don't shop regionally, we don't think regionally.
You root for a regional program. If you couldn't pluck talent from a talent-rich state you couldn't exist.
ALABAMA is a national brand. It is the gold standard of college football. You can wish and hope all you like but the recruiting ranking and portal tell the same tale. BAMA gets who they want. We didn't like our kicker during spring ball, so we got the Lou Groza winner. We need a cornerback, we get 5-star Domani Jackson. We need a safety, we get Saab from Michigan. We don't shop regionally, we don't think regionally.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:00 pm to bamameister
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You can wish and hope all you like but the recruiting ranking and portal tell the same tale.
Well yeah, you haven't had a bad year yet.
My entire statement was based on IF Alabama has a bad year and what dominoes that will cause to fall.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
There’s probably not much difference in the basics for acquiring talent at 14 of the 16 SEC schools. There’s a ton of talent in a 500 mile radius for all of them.
Facilities are among the best in the country but I don’t know if that matters anymore. Neither does having a top support staff. It’s all about NIL and everyone being on board to make that work. I think Alabama is very competitive there. But it’s really too soon to know how this all works out for everyone.
I think Alabama can argue they have an administration and athletic department that is completely aligned. That’s an underrated part of being successful.
All that being said, DeBoer has everything to be highly successful. Now he just has to go and do it. Early returns seem promising.
Facilities are among the best in the country but I don’t know if that matters anymore. Neither does having a top support staff. It’s all about NIL and everyone being on board to make that work. I think Alabama is very competitive there. But it’s really too soon to know how this all works out for everyone.
I think Alabama can argue they have an administration and athletic department that is completely aligned. That’s an underrated part of being successful.
All that being said, DeBoer has everything to be highly successful. Now he just has to go and do it. Early returns seem promising.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
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What advantage does Alabama have over anyone else recruiting elite talent today?
Couldn't tell you, but recruits seem to know because they've always been high on Bama.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:05 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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I think Alabama can argue they have an administration and athletic department that is completely aligned. That’s an underrated part of being successful.
All that being said, DeBoer has everything to be highly successful. Now he just has to go and do it. Early returns seem promising.
I agree with your with your entire post.
Everyone is giving DeBoer the benefit of the doubt right now because by all indications, he's a good coach.
If he has a good year, he can be at minimum, early Les Miles.
If it's bad, the wheels will come off much quicker because the portal exists now.
Its imperative that DeBoer has a good first year, and I think he will.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:10 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Like what?
The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is how much money you spend. And when it comes to that, Alabama pretty much comes out on top always. From facilities, staff quality, etc.
For all the talk about NIL and that bullshite, if these other schools had all this extra money to spend, they already would have done it. All the things I've mentioned above have been completely doable by any team for 100+ years. There has never been a limit on that kind of spending in college football. But they didn't. And they aren't going to, outside maybe a few stupid boosters who feel like learning a lesson the hard way every now and then.
It's why LSU is able to offer more than most. Not the most, but pretty high up there.
So you tell me what category Alabama is lacking in.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 4/24/24 at 5:20 pm to LSU Patrick
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Probably one the first 4 they wanted. None of the choices would have been Saban. That’s what many of you haven’t come to grips with.
So you can’t name who they should have hired. No one expects him to be Saban, but he was the best available hire. Unless you think it should have been the Oregon coach…the same guy DeBoer beat 3 times over the last two seasons
Posted on 4/24/24 at 6:49 pm to 3down10
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The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter how much money you have, what matters is how much money you spend. And when it comes to that, Alabama pretty much comes out on top always. From facilities, staff quality, etc.
I mean that's all subjective and a fairly homerific take. I don't know that Alabama has the best facilities or staff in the nation currently.
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So you tell me what category Alabama is lacking in.
I don't think Alabama is lacking anywhere, but I also don't think they have any particular advantage over any other elite program.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I mean that's all subjective and a fairly homerific take. I don't know that Alabama has the best facilities or staff in the nation currently.
It's only subjective if you want to compare some things individually. The looks and style of a locker room is subjective. But if you look at everything in total, staff, support, medical, coaching, etc, then it's really not.
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I don't think Alabama is lacking anywhere, but I also don't think they have any particular advantage over any other elite program.
It's not lacking anywhere, that's the point.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:31 pm to 3down10
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It's only subjective if you want to compare some things individually. The looks and style of a locker room is subjective. But if you look at everything in total, staff, support, medical, coaching, etc, then it's really not.
It absolutely is subjective.
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It's not lacking anywhere, that's the point.
I simply said Alabama doesn't have any specific advantage over any other elite program, I never said they were lacking anything.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It absolutely is subjective.
Does LSU have the history and tradition of Alabama? Is LSU a blueblood? Is the LSU QB likely to get as high of quality of NIL deal as the Alabama QB?
Sorry but no. Like I said, if you look at things in total Alabama clearly has an advantage.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:08 pm to bamameister
Facilities and history mean nothing to the players. It's about money and can your staff develop these guys for the NFL. I'm confident in our offensive staff. Defense...I think DeBoer will be cleaning house there in a year or two.
Money? I think we're middle of the pack in the SEC. Schools like USC, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, A&M, Michigan, Miami, Auburn and Tennessee have deeper wallets.
Money? I think we're middle of the pack in the SEC. Schools like USC, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, A&M, Michigan, Miami, Auburn and Tennessee have deeper wallets.
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