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re: How long can the streak last?
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:01 pm to Jobu93
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:01 pm to Jobu93
It takes more than one week to prepare for a player like JFF though. We didn't have a bye before playing A&M, it takes more time than that to get used to a player like Johnny, c'mon now everyone knows that. Do you deny that Saban with months to plan will shut down anyone?
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Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:03 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Absolutely we deny it. Anyone? 
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:07 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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No, but it was public knowledge that AJ was hurt for the tail end of the season, and playcalling was horrible in that stretch. Lacy and Yeldon would be averaging 6 yards a pop against you guys and LSU, but we kept passing. Neither team could stop the run, and had we just kept running like we did against UGA we would have been 14-0.
I can't take people seriously that believe this. A&M stopped your run behind the line of scrimmage plenty, and if the threat of the pass isn't there, then that would have happened even more. You had to pass in order to set up the tun. You picked up a lot of rushing yards on passing situations, and late in the game when the Aggie defense was playing a bit soft. If you honestly think you could have lined up and run at will you are insane.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:07 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
You (and others) act as if only Alabama can improve from last years matchup. You ignore that A&M had only a week to prepare for each SEC game last year. You act as if the game plan will be exactly identical to last year.
It's completely without merit.
It's completely without merit.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:07 pm to Roger Klarvin
Yes, anyone in college football. Doubt he'd be shutting down NFL offenses.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:10 pm to TeLeFaWx
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I can't take people seriously that believe this. A&M stopped your run behind the line of scrimmage plenty, and if the threat of the pass isn't there, then that would have happened even more. You had to pass in order to set up the tun. You picked up a lot of rushing yards on passing situations, and late in the game when the Aggie defense was playing a bit soft. If you honestly think you could have lined up and run at will you are insane.
I sat there and watched Lacy run all over you for 5.75 a pop, Yeldon was actually off in the A&M game, the LSU game is the one I was thinking of where he had almost 7 a pop but didn't get carries when he should have, but Lacy should have been fed more often. A&M won, I don't discredit that, I didn't when it happened, I praised A&M for it, but don't expect to win this year.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:13 pm to Jobu93
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You (and others) act as if only Alabama can improve from last years matchup
No I don't, but I believe you know how good the 2011 Defense was, this one will rival it. Your offense will obviously be improved in many aspects, you lose your top two backs, don't you? Or is one of them back, I don't remember. You lose Swope, but Evans is a stud. Jake is the only proven first rounder on your OL, this "three future first rounders" thing some of you spout needs more time before you can go around saying it. Meanwhile our front seven will be far better than last season, and you lose Moore and a good bit more up front on D last I checked.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:15 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Your offense will obviously be improved in many aspects, you lose your top two backs, don't you? Or is one of them back, I don't remember.
Brandon Williams and Tra Carson are eligible this year. A&M's rushing attack will be the best in the conference. No doubt. I know we rushed for more yards per game than Alabama last year, and we will be so much more lethal this year running the ball it won't be fair.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:16 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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No I don't, but I believe you know how good the 2011 Defense was, this one will rival it. Your offense will obviously be improved in many aspects, you lose your top two backs, don't you? Or is one of them back, I don't remember. You lose Swope, but Evans is a stud. Jake is the only proven first rounder on your OL, this "three future first rounders" thing some of you spout needs more time before you can go around saying it. Meanwhile our front seven will be far better than last season, and you lose Moore and a good bit more up front on D last I checked.
But we have to take Alabama fans at their word when assessing future draft spots for linemen, but our assessment needs time? Gumps be gumpin.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:17 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Yep.
Who? We were decided underdogs. Certainly no Bama fans on this site were conceding.
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No, but it was public knowledge that AJ was hurt for the tail end of the season, and playcalling was horrible in that stretch. Lacy and Yeldon would be averaging 6 yards a pop against you guys and LSU, but we kept passing. Neither team could stop the run, and had we just kept running like we did against UGA we would have been 14-0.
If he was that hurt that it effected the outcome he should have been playing, and A&M held Bama to 3.9 YPC. That's their second lowest YPC in any single game since 2008. Our meh front seven stopped your running game better than pretty much any team during this run you've had with Saban. Dont know how, but we did it.
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Under Saban we're significantly better on the road.
Under Saban you have a lower winning percentage on the road and win by fewer PPG. So, no.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:18 pm to scrooster
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To be realistic no one gives a frick ... especially about the past. Oh, errrr, wait. I'm wrong about that because obviously you aTm fans do - that's all you ever type about when trying to make a point about why you're going to be so great in the future.
"WE BEAT BAMA LAST YEAR!" :::: chest thumping assumed :::: lulz
Thanks for the laughs.
It's really a shame SCAR and A&M are not facing-off this season ... we were hoping we would. Watching Clowney and Sutton gang rape JFF would have been classic.
Settle down little fella. Have a beer and unrustle those jimmies.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:18 pm to TeLeFaWx
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A&M's rushing attack will be the best in the conference
Yes, but I think UGA will be close behind and playing a tougher schedule.
However, I wanna know what Carson and Williams have done in college to prove they can make your rushing offense so good.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Who? We were decided underdogs. Certainly no Bama fans on this site were conceding.
Of course no one conceded, but a lot of us said you would be tougher than LSU.
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Under Saban you have a lower winning percentage on the road and win by fewer PPG. So, no.
Let me rephrase, since 2008 when we had Saban's recruits we're much better on the road.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:23 pm to scrooster
The streak will break eventually. Some team will just have an off game in the National Championship. I would not be happy if the SEC lost the streak by not having a representative in the title game, but that will soon be extremely unlikely with the four team playoff.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:24 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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No I don't, but I believe you know how good the 2011 Defense was, this one will rival it.
Bama was still #1 in total defense and PPG given up last year. If you take out the Georgia and A&M games (aka the only two great offenses you played) you YPG average drops from 250 to almost 200, only slightly higher than the 2011 number when you didnt play any statistically great offenses.
This idea that Bamas defense was so much better in 2011 is misleading, because against similar average to bad offenses both '11 and '12 did similar things. Its just that you didnt face Manziel in 2011.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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This idea that Bamas defense was so much better in 2011 is misleading, because against similar average to bad offenses both '11 and '12 did similar things. Its just that you didnt face Manziel in 2011.
Did you really just...
No, just no. The 2011 defense would have made JFF quit football for life, thanks for clearing up that you only saw highlights or one or two games from 2011, because watching that defense for 13 games no one can deny it's top ten all time.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:27 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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However, I wanna know what Carson and Williams have done in college to prove they can make your rushing offense so good.
Carson wont be much of a factor outside of short yardage, but nobody in the country can claim to have a better top three than Malena and Williams x2. Malena is a proven commodity and both Williams were national top 15 players.
Our offense will be great because of Manziel, but having endless depth at receiver and RB helps.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
I agree your offense will be great, I've just never heard a good case as to why Carson and Williams are suddenly being considered so highly when they haven't done much of anything at the college level, and nothing at the SEC level.
LSU - Blue, Hill, Hilliard
Georgia - Gurley and Marshall alone makes a better top three
All opinions of course.
Just wanna make it clear to all the Aggies that I'm trying to have a real discussion, don't want anything to turn into a flame fest.
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but nobody in the country can claim to have a better top three than Malena and Williams x2.
LSU - Blue, Hill, Hilliard
Georgia - Gurley and Marshall alone makes a better top three
All opinions of course.
Just wanna make it clear to all the Aggies that I'm trying to have a real discussion, don't want anything to turn into a flame fest.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:35 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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No, just no. The 2011 defense would have made JFF quit football for life, thanks for clearing up that you only saw highlights or one or two games from 2011, because watching that defense for 13 games no one can deny it's top ten all time.
The stats back me up.
In 2011 you gave up 8.2 PPG, in 2012 you gave up 10.9 PPG. Take out the A&M and Georgia games (again, two elite offenses a caliber of which you didnt face in 2011) and you actually gave up FEWER PPG in 2012 than 2011, including more shut outs against better teams.
To further my point, the average total offensive rank of your 2011 opponents was 54th. In 2012 in was 28th. Take out A&M and Georgia and it drops to 52nd.
In 2011 you gave up 183 YPG. In 2012 you have up 250 a game. Take out Georgia and A&M and the 2011 total drops to 201.
So your vastly superior 2011 defense gave up more PPG and less than 20 YPG less. Sorry, the numbers dont support your claim. The difference was the offenses you played, not your defense. Statistically speaking, LSU has done far better against great offenses under Chevis. Saban's defense at Bama are just statistically good to average against elite offenses.
Posted on 4/21/13 at 3:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
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In 2011 you gave up 183 YPG. In 2012 you have up 250 a game. Take out Georgia and A&M and the 2011 total drops to 201.
So your vastly superior 2011 defense gave up more PPG and less than 20 YPG less. Sorry, the numbers dont support your claim. The difference was the offenses you played, not your defense. Statistically speaking, LSU has done far better against great offenses under Chevis. Saban's defense at Bama are just statistically good to average against elite offenses.
The 2011 Arkansas team had the best WR corp in the country, I'd say it was a better offense than the Georgia team we played.
As for the stats, impressive, but like I said, sometimes when stats seem off you have to use the eye test. I mean you can claim it all you want, you can post stats about it all you want, but the 2011 defense was far and away better than the 2012 D, and that's a fact that any expert will tell you.
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