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re: How long before Texas tries to join the SEC?

Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:49 pm to
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This will make Hopwood look tame in comparison.


There are limits to the amount of leverage BK has. In Texas, you can fire anyone for almost anything. Everybody has their price and right now her attorney is doing what he can to get as much value out of the deal. She will simply be smothered in money, sign a deal, & it will be over. This isn't a PSU like case.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36110 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 12:50 pm to
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You assume that you're dealing with rational, adaptive individuals. They make the grinders and the pigs look SANE.



FWIW I feel the same way about the A&M and LSU fan bases

In general I can't really tell a difference between the crazy ramblings of a longhorn and a gump... or tell an aggie from a LSU fan. Well maybe that's not entirely true, there's a bit of an obsession with homosexuality in the aggie culture.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:13 pm to
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This will make Hopwood look tame in comparison.


There are limits to the amount of leverage BK has. In Texas, you can fire anyone for almost anything. Everybody has their price and right now her attorney is doing what he can to get as much value out of the deal. She will simply be smothered in money, sign a deal, & it will be over. This isn't a PSU like case.




Have to agree with you on this. In the end Kearney doesn't want to go to trial because she has a good chance of losing. Texas doesn't want to go to trial because of Discovery and the ongoing bad publicity. A big check and a Non Disclosure agreement makes it all go away and in the end it is in both of their best interests to do so. Kearney may even get an apology or some type of verbage to help her save face. In the end though she was having an affair with a student athlete and providing her with all kinds of special attention and that's a no no.

I also agree this could be a good thing for Texas if it results in a house cleaning. It needs to start with Powers and Dodds and go from there. Honestly I don't think Mack is as big of a problem as many sips do, you could do a LOT worse and replacing him with an improvement is much easier said than done. Mack is the smartest politician of the bunch though.

The question is IF that is going to happen. Powers and Dodds aren't going to go without a fight and both of them have significant power bases to draw upon. Who knows how this ends up.

The irony is today is Orange and Maroon Day at the Capitol. Aggies and sips are canvassing the Leg as they do every session to fight for issues in their mutual interests. That really is a much smarter way of doing things as opposed to fighting each other. Texas needs leadership that wants to partner with others and not dictate policy. The amount of damage done to Texas in the last 3 years because of that attitude is staggering.
Posted by BossaGator
Member since Sep 2010
606 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:15 pm to
It will never happen, IMO. Texas does not want and IMO will never want in to the SEC.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20372 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:31 pm to
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UT will have plenty of options to pursue and they won't have to go looking for them.


You are joking right?? You need to say they will have plenty of options THEY DON'T LIKE. BIG difference in having options you like and options you don't like.

Don't have to go back but 2 years to see what "options" Texass had. They wanted to join out West but they said no thanks to LHN and unequal TV revenue sharing. How did that option work out for you clowns?

A few months later shorthorns, with no viable option if the Big 12 imploded, conceded to the rest of the conference and the TV deal/revenue sharing was re-worked to save the Big 12. Rest of the Big 12 can thank the Ags for forcing you jokers back to the table with hat in hand.

Yes, there will be options available to Texass. But NONE shorthorns like as much as ruling the land of misfit toys known as the Big 12.

When the highrise is on fire you can jump out the window or try to climb down building but both of those options will still suck nd so will Texass.
Posted by agswin
The Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
4341 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:47 pm to
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UT will have plenty of options to pursue and they won't have to go looking for them.


Yeah, I think the CUSA or Sunbelt might let them in.

But it will never happen. Not enough female trainers in the SEC to satisfy Major Applewhite.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Look at it this way:

Would you sleep with Paris Hilton without protection knowing that you were going to catch something nasty?


Totally depends on how much I've had to drink.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:06 pm to
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They are poised to become the #2 program in the state of Texas. You'd think that would make them step back and re-evaluate things


They don't accept this as a possibility.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:37 pm to
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In the end though she was having an affair with a student athlete and providing her with all kinds of special attention and that's a no no.


And she covered it up for about a decade. Applewhite's case was a one-time and he got disciplined almost immediately. Hard to prove "disparate treatment" there (she's probably looking more for some case on the academic side where a prof was involved with a grad student s/he was advising but didn't get more than a hand slap).

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Honestly I don't think Mack is as big of a problem as many sips do, you could do a LOT worse and replacing him with an improvement is much easier said than done. Mack is the smartest politician of the bunch though.


Unless he had a lot to do with Cleve Bryant, he's safe. Provided that new leadership doesn't decide to clear out the whole department outside of the volleyball and men's golf coaches.

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The irony is today is Orange and Maroon Day at the Capitol. Aggies and sips are canvassing the Leg as they do every session to fight for issues in their mutual interests.


And when you think about it, looking at any faculty roster, most of your profs are foreign-born and aren't into football anyway. They just want to keep the research $$$ coming in (and with both schools in the top 20 in this area, probably a very good idea).
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 2:40 pm to
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They are poised to become the #2 program in the state of Texas


That may be generous if TCU keeps going the way they are. They knocked them off in Austin and nearly pulled off an upset against OU.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58061 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:36 pm to
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That may be generous if TCU keeps going the way they are. They knocked them off in Austin and nearly pulled off an upset against OU.


and that was with Big 12 refs blatantly trying to protect a second BCS berth.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:38 pm to
REC says no to UTa.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:41 pm to
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Warning: If the SEC ever lets those asswipes in, I will personally go on a naked, arse-raping, pooh-flinging suicide mission of necrophilia and bestiality. Some of you might get hurt.


Bookmarked
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:49 pm to
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quote:
In the end though she was having an affair with a student athlete and providing her with all kinds of special attention and that's a no no.


And she covered it up for about a decade. Applewhite's case was a one-time and he got disciplined almost immediately. Hard to prove "disparate treatment" there (she's probably looking more for some case on the academic side where a prof was involved with a grad student s/he was advising but didn't get more than a hand slap).

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Honestly I don't think Mack is as big of a problem as many sips do, you could do a LOT worse and replacing him with an improvement is much easier said than done. Mack is the smartest politician of the bunch though.


Unless he had a lot to do with Cleve Bryant, he's safe. Provided that new leadership doesn't decide to clear out the whole department outside of the volleyball and men's golf coaches.

quote:
The irony is today is Orange and Maroon Day at the Capitol. Aggies and sips are canvassing the Leg as they do every session to fight for issues in their mutual interests.


And when you think about it, looking at any faculty roster, most of your profs are foreign-born and aren't into football anyway. They just want to keep the research $$$ coming in (and with both schools in the top 20 in this area, probably a very good idea).


Football coaches don't get fired by AD's and Presidents at schools like Texas. It's the Red McCombs and Joe Jamails of the world that make those calls.

Orange and Maroon Day actually isn't about research money, it's really about other types of issues. Stuff like making sure nobody messes with the PUF, Top 10% rule, etc. Lately it is more for show anyway, Texas and A&M completely dominate the Leg. Kind of a gentle reminder not to mess with us.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5331 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 3:52 pm to
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KaiserSoze99


thanks for making us aware of this
Posted by CowTownReb
Member since Jan 2013
353 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:03 pm to
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Nothing sharpens the mind like failure

They are poised to become the #2 program in the state of Texas. You'd think that would make them step back and re-evaluate things


UT's football program is the wealthiest in the nation. As long as they remain so, they're not going to care.


Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:18 pm to
I would see Arkansas supporting Texas to the SEC.

1. The old money still remembers the rivalry.

2. Its in our best interest to keep moving the center of the SEC further west.

Arkansas would support any combo of OU/TX/OSU.

I'm told we supported Mizzou joining for the same reason, in spite of no real history there.

The more teams we play with alumni bases closer to Fayetteville, the better off our ticket sales will always be. We've never benefited from having a lot of fanbases close by like some other schools do.

Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:19 pm to
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UT's football program is the wealthiest in the nation. As long as they remain so, they're not going to care.


But if you had a goose that each day, without fail, laid a golden egg, wouldn't a smart person like yourself make sure that goose stayed healthy?

Right now, though, the Horns are so busy looking at the bank account that they have failed to notice that the "goose" (the football program) is in distress (or worse, they're in denial). To paraphrase A Christmas Carol, "If these shadows remain unaltered by the Future, the goose will die."
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
9882 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:34 pm to
UT would join CUSA over the SEC
Posted by AginAL
Member since Dec 2010
1378 posts
Posted on 2/5/13 at 4:58 pm to
This will never happen. Those that insinuate it do not know the history of Texas and Texas A&M. They would pursue any other avenue available for their betterment. IMO they will join the PAC if so forced.
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