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re: How close was Dooley to being fired after the UK loss? Very close

Posted on 5/19/12 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/19/12 at 8:55 pm to
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Why bother? If you're wiling to overlook Dooley's record, delusional comments, and leadership failures, I'm not really sure how anyone is going to be able to reason with you.


Again, rebuilding takes time. I used Brady Hoke, Mack Brown,and Frank Beamer as examples why you shouldn't look at records when teams are rebuilding. I can also use Steve Spurrier at USCjr, Al Golden at Temple, Art Briles at Houston, or Rich Brooks at Kentucky. Please explain why it took all those coaches the same time, if not longer to have a respectable record?

How do you know Dooley's leadership when you aren't even on the team? You have no idea what kind of leadership he has.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:03 pm to
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How do you know Dooley's leadership when you aren't even on the team? You have no idea what kind of leadership he has.


You're right. No one can criticize him, we don't even play for him! He's great. The program is fine. Carry on!
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20831 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:04 pm to
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You're right. No one can criticize him, we don't even play for him! He's great. The program is fine. Carry on!


Dooley would probably have to burn Neyland to the ground for some of his followers to see the light.
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 9:05 pm
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:06 pm to


I think that's the next step.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:10 pm to
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You're right. No one can criticize him, we don't even play for him! He's great. The program is fine. Carry on!


Comprehension isn't your strong suit...
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:11 pm to
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Dooley would probably have to burn Neyland to the ground for some of his followers to see the light.


So Im a follower because I don't blindly bash him for no apparent reason? You are the same as the vol fans who think Dooley can do no wrong. Thats the funny thing. It is one extremist to the other.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40951 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:16 pm to
It is not blind bashing. He is 28-34 in 5 years as a college football coach and has made countless mistakes in 24 plus months on the job here.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
73009 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:17 pm to
You give Dooley 3 more years and the Vol fanbase will be rewarded. It takes time to implement "The Process".
Posted by volfan30
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40951 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:18 pm to
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Comprehension isn't your strong suit...


Rational thought and job evaluation appear to be your weak points.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:25 pm to
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It is not blind bashing. He is 28-34 in 5 years as a college football coach and has made countless mistakes in 24 plus months on the job here.


The 28-34 is blind bashing. You are going off a record that doesn't tell the whole story. He took over a La Tech team that went 3-10 the year before. He didn't take over a 10 win team like most of the so called good coaches.

What would have happened if Spurrier was fired after his 35-28 record after 5 years and back to back losses to Vandy at USCjr?

What if Michigan never gave Brady Hoke a chance because of his 47-50 career record?

What if UNC fired Mack Brown after his back to back 1 win seasons?

Why did Miami even give Al Golden a chance since his career record is 27-34?

Records do not tell the whole story. Dooley has had two rebuilding jobs. He is not going to have a good record until he has the chance to build his team.
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:25 pm to
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Rational thought and job evaluation appear to be your weak points.


Please explain why coaches with losing records get premier head coaching jobs?
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:27 pm to
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You give Dooley 3 more years and the Vol fanbase will be rewarded. It takes time to implement "The Process".


Dooley has done his job which is rebuild the roster. I couldn't care less who is coaching but if he is fired, UT will be a very desirable job.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25234 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:52 pm to
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Please explain why coaches with losing records get premier head coaching jobs?


Because a job opens up in January when a current coach bails and said university can't get any of its top choices so they incredibly settle on the coach of La Tech who was coming off a losing season. He promptly takes the premier job to back to back losing seasons. I'd say it's improbable, but he's done it everywhere he's been, so I'd be lying.
Posted by KingWebbsticles
Athens, GA
Member since Sep 2010
364 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:57 pm to
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Are you sure you shut them down, or did the mods just delete their posts because they were too harsh in ridiculing your delusions?



qft
Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2970 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:26 pm to
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Ignorant post is ignorant.


As opposed to say "clever' redundancy.
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:31 pm to
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Dooley has done his job which is rebuild the roster. I couldn't care less who is coaching but if he is fired, UT will be a very desirable job.


So would you be Happy if they hired Petrino? Not a loaded question, just would like to know. He can coach again in the SEC since he was fired for cause.

Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20831 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:37 pm to
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The 28-34 is blind bashing. You are going off a record that doesn't tell the whole story. He took over a La Tech team that went 3-10 the year before. He didn't take over a 10 win team like most of the so called good coaches.

What would have happened if Spurrier was fired after his 35-28 record after 5 years and back to back losses to Vandy at USCjr?

What if Michigan never gave Brady Hoke a chance because of his 47-50 career record?

What if UNC fired Mack Brown after his back to back 1 win seasons?

Why did Miami even give Al Golden a chance since his career record is 27-34?

Records do not tell the whole story. Dooley has had two rebuilding jobs. He is not going to have a good record until he has the chance to build his team.


News flash: Lot's of coaches take over bad situations. The good ones don't make excuses and get results. It may not be pretty at first, but there's generally noticeable improvement. Dooley's accomplishments include failing to maintain a long winning streak against Kentucky and bringing Tennessee back to back losing seasons for the first time in 100 years. When are you going to start holding him accountable for losing? How long does he have to continue losing before it's his fault?
Posted by Jerry the Clown
The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla
Member since Nov 2011
3272 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:40 pm to
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lsuboyz33


Eat a dick. If what we've been through the past couple of seasons means that we will never be "back", then IDK how the frick LSU managed to survive the 90's...
Posted by UTVols2618
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Feb 2012
773 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 10:40 pm to
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Because a job opens up in January when a current coach bails and said university can't get any of its top choices so they incredibly settle on the coach of La Tech who was coming off a losing season. He promptly takes the premier job to back to back losing seasons. I'd say it's improbable, but he's done it everywhere he's been, so I'd be lying.


Again, comprehension isn't your strong suit. Michigan, Miami, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, and Auburn are examples of programs hiring a coach with a career losing record. You avoided the question once again.
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