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re: How can some of you not grasp the importance of conference superiority?
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:08 pm to BoarEd
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:08 pm to BoarEd
Then it's horse shite. LSU and Bama fans are consistently more outspoken about the SEC Pride garbage than anyone else, IMO.
SEC Pride is for the cellar dwellers of the conference who need something to attach their identity to in order to feel important. Bama fans haven't bought into that shite in almost a decade.
SEC Pride is for the cellar dwellers of the conference who need something to attach their identity to in order to feel important. Bama fans haven't bought into that shite in almost a decade.
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:04 pm to TideSaint
As a fellow Bama fan, I would like to tell you to GFY.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:14 pm to TideSaint
Your position is rational and used to be my attitude. This board has literally made me hate most of the SEC though. 
I took great joy in A&M's hilarious collapse and pulling against Bama is a given. I pretty much always pull for SEC East teams though.
I took great joy in A&M's hilarious collapse and pulling against Bama is a given. I pretty much always pull for SEC East teams though.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 9/5/17 at 10:16 pm to scrooster
Carolina ridin coat tails.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:40 pm to TideSaint
While I agree that conference superiority is important, who I pull for or against in any particular game has never affected the outcome that I know of.
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:52 pm to northshorebamaman
quote:my word. when conference teams lose, it weakens your own team nitwits. there is some serious stubbornness out there.
I see no good reason to pull for Tennessee
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 12:03 am
Posted on 9/5/17 at 11:54 pm to tween the hedges
quote:you don't realize that conference superiority greatly affects what facilities teams are capable of building? how do people not get this concept?
building nice facilities
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:05 am to bfniii
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I see no good reason to pull for Tennessee
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my word. when conference teams lose, it weakens your own team nitwits. there is some serious stubbornness out there.
Tennessee has been arse for a decade and we've done alright.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:24 am to Tuscaloosa
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That's not a fact. That's a complete fabrication based on nothing more than your poorly formed opinion.
Nope.
From 2011:
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Strength of Schedule: Similar analysis. By reputation, people would say the SEC schedule for Alabama. By results on field, Oklahoma State’s was tougher. Alabama’s non-conference opponents were worse, and they did not get to play Georgia or South Carolina from the East. Advantage: Oklahoma State.
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Reputation: Let’s face it, this matters. If Oklahoma, or Ohio State, or Florida, had Oklahoma State’s profile, going against another team that did not win its conference, this would not be much of a debate. That team would be in the title game. Throw in the SEC reputational advantage in recent title games, and it is Advantage: Alabama, big time.
You don't get that reputation without the entire SEC being good in out of conference games.
I know you love to hate Auburn, but allowing it to cloud common fricking sense is delusional.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:13 pm to TideSaint
I understand your position as a Bama fan.
Admittedly, my opinion as an MSU fan is the minority.
That said, I refuse to blindly support things that further bolster Alabama and make them even more of an empire than they already are. Like the 9 game conference schedule. Saban started pushing that when he figured out the points system and realized he could pad his season stats by beating another SEC team with higher rankings. The 9th SEC game wasn't going to do anything FOR State.
Bama being a perennial NC contender is good for the conference on whole. But, I contend that if Bama wasn't always playing for the title then MSU would have signed players like Raekwon Davis, Scott Lashley and Nigel Knott. These kind of players are just jersey #s at Bama , but they could boost an MSU roster that needs quality depth. Heck, they could be difference makers at MSU.
In the end we all have to look out for what's best for our schools
Admittedly, my opinion as an MSU fan is the minority.
That said, I refuse to blindly support things that further bolster Alabama and make them even more of an empire than they already are. Like the 9 game conference schedule. Saban started pushing that when he figured out the points system and realized he could pad his season stats by beating another SEC team with higher rankings. The 9th SEC game wasn't going to do anything FOR State.
Bama being a perennial NC contender is good for the conference on whole. But, I contend that if Bama wasn't always playing for the title then MSU would have signed players like Raekwon Davis, Scott Lashley and Nigel Knott. These kind of players are just jersey #s at Bama , but they could boost an MSU roster that needs quality depth. Heck, they could be difference makers at MSU.
In the end we all have to look out for what's best for our schools
Posted on 9/6/17 at 12:21 pm to TideSaint
That website and article are completely inconsequential and irrelevant.
Oklahoma State lost to a 4 touchdown underdog in Week 12. It would have required voters to jump them from 5 to 2 to overtake Alabama, who had completely demolished every team on their schedule except LSU. The Harris Poll also had them at 5th.
For reference - in 2011, Auburn went 8-5 and Tennessee went 5-7.
Bama doesn't need them to win shite for us to be in the spotlight. We built our own reputation, and as long as we win, we're in. And there's not any evidence to suggest otherwise.
Oklahoma State lost to a 4 touchdown underdog in Week 12. It would have required voters to jump them from 5 to 2 to overtake Alabama, who had completely demolished every team on their schedule except LSU. The Harris Poll also had them at 5th.
For reference - in 2011, Auburn went 8-5 and Tennessee went 5-7.
Bama doesn't need them to win shite for us to be in the spotlight. We built our own reputation, and as long as we win, we're in. And there's not any evidence to suggest otherwise.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:07 pm to Woodrow Wilson
quote:So there are no successful nor achievement worthy Alabama fans...right Woody?
Bama fans substitute football success for their own failures and lack of achievement.
...You're a real piece of work. 
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:08 pm to TideSaint
I think it's more situational than just "always root for the SEC team OOC". I have no need or desire to pull for Auburn this weekend against Clemson... A) I've been to a shitload of Clemson games and it would likely be my second or third team that I mildly give a shite about behind UGA. B) We fight against them for recruits on the regular... We go up against Clemson as well, but for most positions that matter, Auburn is a more significant threat (see: Fields).
In the case of UT/GT on Monday, besides pulling for my wife, I was relatively neutral. There was no inherent advantage to either team winning, as we'll play them both. If anything, a GT win might have given us a bigger SOS bump at the end of the season.
In any case, UGA's fate will be held exclusively in our own hands... If we make it out of the east with no more than 2 losses (maybe one conference, one out to ND?) and managed to win in Atlanta (not sure I buy either of these things being remotely plausible just yet, but we'll run a hypothetical), we'd be in the playoffs... only exception would be if all other conference champs are undefeated/one loss and at that point I don't believe we'd go in regardless of the opinion of the conference. On the other hand, even if we make it to Atlanta with no losses, but lose in the SEC Championship, I see next to no path that puts us in the playoffs. Alabama making it in was less to do with SEC perception and more to do with Alabama/Saban perception. I'm not sure any other team gets that leeway. Next closest thing would likely be OSU last season getting the nod, and again that's school and/or coach perception over conference, otherwise doesn't Penn St go in as B1G champs?
In the case of UT/GT on Monday, besides pulling for my wife, I was relatively neutral. There was no inherent advantage to either team winning, as we'll play them both. If anything, a GT win might have given us a bigger SOS bump at the end of the season.
In any case, UGA's fate will be held exclusively in our own hands... If we make it out of the east with no more than 2 losses (maybe one conference, one out to ND?) and managed to win in Atlanta (not sure I buy either of these things being remotely plausible just yet, but we'll run a hypothetical), we'd be in the playoffs... only exception would be if all other conference champs are undefeated/one loss and at that point I don't believe we'd go in regardless of the opinion of the conference. On the other hand, even if we make it to Atlanta with no losses, but lose in the SEC Championship, I see next to no path that puts us in the playoffs. Alabama making it in was less to do with SEC perception and more to do with Alabama/Saban perception. I'm not sure any other team gets that leeway. Next closest thing would likely be OSU last season getting the nod, and again that's school and/or coach perception over conference, otherwise doesn't Penn St go in as B1G champs?
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:13 pm to TideSaint
I root for everyone besides Alabama.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:26 pm to Tuscaloosa
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t. LSU and Bama fans are consistently more outspoken about the SEC Pride garbage than anyone else, IMO.
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Bama fans haven't bought into that shite in almost a decade.
So bama fans werent chanting "SEC" in recent years big games?
quote:Then why do Bama fans still do it?
SEC Pride is for the cellar dwellers of the conference
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:37 pm to 12
After watching Alabama win a game, the next best tv game is watching Tennessee and Auburn lose.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:37 pm to NYCAuburn
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So bama fans werent chanting "SEC" in recent years big games?
Didn't happen at the ones I've been at, and I've been to three national championships, and several of the kickoff classics. Only time I remember it happening was the 2008 game vs Clemson. If it did happen, it was a small portion of the fanbase.
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Then why do Bama fans still do it?
The ones that do can't let go of their cellar dwelling mindset, I guess.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Didn't happen at the ones I've been at,
They have chanted it every year
quote:last years game against Washington had a huge section doing it. maybe you havent heard it, but it has happened pretty much every year
If it did happen, it was a small portion of the fanbase.
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The ones that do can't let go of their cellar dwelling mindset, I guess.
or your theory is just completely incorrect...
Posted on 9/6/17 at 2:48 pm to TideSaint
Because I hate you! Now
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