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re: Honest Question Gumps.... College > NFL Leap
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:10 pm to 3andOut
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:10 pm to 3andOut
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You came to this thread saying Bama has alot of NFL stars, I agreed and said they are all young and historically its EXTREMELY rare that they has sustained success.
You said DeMeco Ryans which I gave you, Roman Harper is also acceptable.
So 2 out of how many people drafted before 2010 are still relevant?
And im making a fool of myself????
You are definitely making a fool of yourself. For some reason you apparently don't realize how long Saban has been coaching at Alabama (since Saban was the topic and hypothesis of your OP). You are basically talking about from the 2009 draft on and asking where are all the "long time vets" from that period? It makes you sound retarded.
If you want to talk about "long time starters, veterans" drafted from Alabama during Saban's tenure you are going to need to wait a few years to start that topic. Or at least you should if you don't want to sound like a fool.
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Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:12 pm to elposter
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If you want to talk about "long time starters, veterans" drafted from Alabama during Saban's tenure you are going to need to wait a few years to start that topic. Or at least you should if you don't want to sound like a fool.
You should read my last post... I named 6 people out of 40+ players drafted that have a possibility of being relevant. thats a horrible percentage.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:14 pm to 3andOut
Von Miller won't be relevant without PED's.
And we all see your weak attempt at trolling in the last few pages. Let it go.
And we all see your weak attempt at trolling in the last few pages. Let it go.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:15 pm to 3andOut
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Guess I just dont see alot of Bama veterans with long hall of fame carreers since Saban took over at Bama.
Well, maybe your criteria sucks.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:22 pm to 3andOut
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3andOut
Honest Question Gumps.... College > NFL Leap
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Kareem Jackson...#5 on the team in tackles...maybe not All-Pro, but hardly a bust.
You cant be serious. Kareem Jackson is fricking terrible. Please ask any Houston Texans fan you will ever encounter.
Everyone else you named is still young within the 4 year limitation are they not?
troll, he's considered a solid starter by just about every analyst out there ... you might want to rethink your 3rd grade definition of "bust" ...
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:25 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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And we all see your weak attempt at trolling in the last few pages
If I wanted to troll I would have hung way more bait. Its an honest question, but with all the deflection going on I guess we can just assume that for now NFLU resides in Louisiana.
No point even having this conversation anymore. In 5 years NFLU will be at A&M with LSU being a close second followed by Auburn and Alabama being somewhere in the middle of the pack. The name recognition will eventually get overlooked when they see the end result... Not a troll. Its a numbers thing. 6/40 or 15% of your draft picks since Saban sent players pro have a chance of having a 5+ year career, and thats being generous. OverratedU/BustU whatever you want to call it, but numbers dont lie. Was simply coming here to get an explanation (which i got on the first page, thanks for the answer) the resulting 4 pages were deflection. But this is what ive come to expect from tRant and gumps in general.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:25 pm to 3andOut
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You should read my last post... I named 6 people out of 40+ players drafted that have a possibility of being relevant. thats a horrible percentage.
So now you are projecting what's going to happen. I see you have finally realized the idiocy of your previous argument so congrats on that.
Unfortunately, you have moved from idiocy to simple lies (i.e., please name the "40+" players drafted from Alabama from the 2008 draft on, hint: there aren't that many).
Also 6 players that have a "possibility of being relevant" is completely asinine. Off the top of my head I can think of about twice that many guys from that time period that are on starting NFL lineups right now.
You are looking worse and worse in this thread by talking about something you apparently know very little.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:27 pm to 3andOut
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No point even having this conversation anymore.
Good call, because you really sucked at it.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:27 pm to 3andOut
A lot of first round picks under perform.
Bama has had more first rounders than anyone in recent years.
So Bama has more that under perform.
Simple.
Bama has had more first rounders than anyone in recent years.
So Bama has more that under perform.
Simple.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:29 pm to 3andOut
when you have to say not a troll multiple times in one post, you are usually either trolling or drawing very unfortunate conclusions.
Based on your subjective opinion of who has a chance to make it in the NFL.
Was simply coming here to get an explanation (which i got on the first page, thanks for the answer) the resulting 4 pages were deflection.
The correct answer you got was that Alabama likely had a percentage commensurate with the rest of the league although it may be slightly below due to NFL teams reaching for Alabama players during the draft. Then you proceeded to call out players who happen to be doing just fine in the league.
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6/40 or 15% of your draft picks
Based on your subjective opinion of who has a chance to make it in the NFL.
Was simply coming here to get an explanation (which i got on the first page, thanks for the answer) the resulting 4 pages were deflection.
The correct answer you got was that Alabama likely had a percentage commensurate with the rest of the league although it may be slightly below due to NFL teams reaching for Alabama players during the draft. Then you proceeded to call out players who happen to be doing just fine in the league.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 4:40 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
Everybody has players that underperform. Bama's just stand out because there are more of them. It also helps them get drafted higher that they have been coached so well and get surrounded by so many great players. For example, Ingram and Richardson had great offensive lines. If they would have played at Michigan St. I don't believe either of them would have been drafted as high. Defensively their players work so well together in college that they look better than anyone else's defensive players. Similar to USC offensive players from 2002-2010 imo.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:41 pm to 3andOut
I counted at least 19 guys who will have 5+ year careers who played under Saban at Alabama.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:42 pm to The Spleen
quote:Eddie Lacy, Julio Jones, or Marcel Dareus, IMO.
I don;t know, Lacy or Hightower I guess. I don't follow NFL that closely until the playoffs.
Dont'a Hightower will see a decrease in snaps this year, per Rotoworld.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:43 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:Von Miller is a complete badass.
Von Miller won't be relevant without PED's.
He is recovering from a torn ACL, though.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:46 pm to mjw60532
Says the guy with 8 D NFL draft first round picks that couldn't stop a drill against no offense.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:49 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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Von Miller won't be relevant without PED's.
And we all see your weak attempt at trolling in the last few pages. Let it go.
Does any SEC school have ground to stand on when it comes to PEDs? You dumb fricks think Trent was natural?
Posted on 4/28/14 at 6:51 pm to bmy
Yes. I know a guy that knows a cousin that knows a coach...Truth
Posted on 4/28/14 at 7:32 pm to brewhan davey
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I don't really buy into this whole thing. It's just a point to get people talking. There are many schools that have busts in the league. Alabama's players are just under a microscope because they are coming from such a high level of success on the college level. For every Julio Jones and Eddie Lacy, there are your Terrance Cotys and Mark Ingrams. People see guys that succeed in college and expect that it will translate to the NFL game. That is not always the case, of course.
Brewhan bringing the logic.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:14 pm to 3andOut
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Ryan Tannehill is doing a decent job for the talent he has at Miami.
He hasn't been in the league for five years, so he doesn't count per your own criteria. You don't seem very bright.
Do some research if you want to know the answer. How many top three round players are still in the NFL five years later? Bama puts more players in the NFL, so logic would tell you that Bama would also have more "busts" than other colleges.
Posted on 4/28/14 at 8:27 pm to ErnestTBassmaster
First of all it wouldn't bother me one bit how former players were doing in the NFL if my team had had the run Saban has at Bama. With that clearly stated it does seem a little strange that all those #1 recruiting classes haven't been able to produce more elite level players in the NFL(elite to me is making a pro bowl). Then again I've never seen any data that shows they are any different than anybody else. If they were I'm pretty sure somebody on the ITAT would have a graph and pie chart illustrating it by now.
This post was edited on 4/28/14 at 8:31 pm
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