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re: Had an interesting conversation with a former SEC football player
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:55 am to StopRobot
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:55 am to StopRobot
I think you guys are confusing my comments with giving a frick. I'm not interested in arguing the moral points if this, I'm simply pointing out that the massive media contracts of the last decade are changing things. There's just too much money going around these days for things to continue the way they are, and it's going to happen no matter how much you bitch about it.
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:56 am to MontyFranklyn
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He did send it home to his mom, but I never said that the mom didn't work.
hia mother's facebook profile states she's self-employed
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looks like she also did receive a college degree from USL (now ULL). Crazy how a college graduate from 1993 would have so much trouble paying her light bill and needed her son's college football program to foot the bill
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:56 am to MontyFranklyn
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Who said that they didn't work?
They did, and they paid bills until Tunsil and his half brother signed with Ole Miss.
The sob story about having to help out his family is BS. This isn't some single mother raising 12 kids on welfare. This is a man and a woman with two kids going to college that cost them absolutely zero.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:56 am to MontyFranklyn
I never blame the kids for taking the money.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:00 pm to MontyFranklyn
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He did send it home to his mom, but I never said that the mom didn't work. Some of you are so out of touch with reality that it is amazing.
The premise of my original response was that one of the biggest, and most frequent, defenses to players taking money is that they send it back home to help their families.
My question was: why is this so often the case (such as Tunsil paying his mom's utility bill)? Hoe many gainfully employed adults rely on their college-attending kids to pay their most basic bills?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:02 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:I was referring to the player who got $2500.00 after the game back in 2000. Not all parents are sitting around waiting on money from their children. I know of several that work, but their kids still sent money home.
They did, and they paid bills until Tunsil and his half brother signed with Ole Miss.
The sob story about having to help out his family is BS. This isn't some single mother raising 12 kids on welfare. This is a man and a woman with two kids going to college that cost them absolutely zero.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:04 pm to pvilleguru
Players are already getting paid. They are entitled to a free education that most athletes don't qualify for and the best training and trainers in the business to go on and potentially make millions of dollars if they keep their shite straight. All of this doesn't matter because they agree to those rules when they sign the paper work. If they don't like it, they don't need to agree to it. They are more than free to sit at home and wait to get drafted. I'd like to see how that works out.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:04 pm to AshLSU
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I never blame the kids for taking the money.
What about Tyler Bray? He wasn't exactly a needy child helping out Mom and Dad but he took money from an agent, probably to fund his beer bottle tossing campaign (and perhaps pay some vandalism damages that resulted from it).
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I know of several that work, but their kids still sent money home.
well more money is always better. but i thought the argument was more need based financial assistance. parents should not be relying on their children to support themselves, especially if they have the means to do it themselves, which the vast majority of people do, they just choose not to or conjure up sob story excuses.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:10 pm to lsufball19
quote:In Tunsil's case it is, but not everyone is just sitting around waiting to mooch off their children. It's sad because some will try to paint with a broad brush to make it look like every parent is like Tunsil's mom, but what about Richard Sherman's dad? What about Lester Cotton's mom? What about Reggie Ragland's parents? What about ODB's parents? What about all the parents that work and you never hear a peep from? Their children still send them money back home, trust me.
well more money is always better. but i thought the argument was more need based financial assistance. parents should not be relying on their children to support themselves, especially if they have the means to do it themselves, which the vast majority of people do, they just choose not to or conjure up sob story excuses.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:11 pm to MontyFranklyn
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I commend Tunsil for looking out for his mom, it is obvious his pos step dad wasn't.
Well I condemn him for agreeing to follow rules and then not following them, making his word as a man mean nothing.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:16 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
quote:Well don't stop your campaign of condemning there. There are plenty in and around Tuscaloosa to be condemned by you. Start with Bentley first and work your way around.
Well I condemn him for agreeing to follow rules and then not following them, making his word as a man mean nothing.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:17 pm to MontyFranklyn
Eh.....varying circumstances. You'd also be surprised at how good some of these kids are keeping their mouths shut to EVERYONE.
That said, I knew of plenty that personally enjoyed those perks. Also, the biggest cash avenue is the booster-provided jobs. Getting paid $25-25/hr in the summer to sit on your arse or run errands for the boosters family is cake (oh, and gosh, I forgot to return the company vehicle last week).
That said, I knew of plenty that personally enjoyed those perks. Also, the biggest cash avenue is the booster-provided jobs. Getting paid $25-25/hr in the summer to sit on your arse or run errands for the boosters family is cake (oh, and gosh, I forgot to return the company vehicle last week).
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:18 pm to MontyFranklyn
You expect an 18 year old to turn down money?
It is on corrupt cheating coaches like Freezus.
It is on corrupt cheating coaches like Freezus.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:19 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Their children still send them money back home, trust me.
I'm not saying they don't. I'm saying it's not right for parents to accept money and then try to spin it into they couldn't survive otherwise. And both of ODB's parents are college graduates. His step father is a former Olympian. ODB also went to the same private school as Peyton Manning. I doubt seriously his family was ever hurting for money. But that's beside the point. I am fully aware of players getting paid and some sending money home to their families, whether their family needed it or not. What I don't like is excuses being made that they absolutely needed the money from their children just to get by.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:22 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Do you know how much the SEC commissioner is paid right now?
You DO know that he went to school and got his education before he got paid, right? Bad analogy on your part. He probably had to pay for his education...go to school for 4 years (I am guessing he has a doctorate) and is now making less than most NFL players. (Or at least less than the top players)
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:25 pm to tigerskin
I find it hard to believe that a Bama fan found a player that got paid by whole in college
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:27 pm to MontyFranklyn
Here is an interesting article about what the average persn that is considered living in poverty in the United States has.
Warning: It's long, but very interesting and worth the read.
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Just a snippet:
As scholar James Q. Wilson has stated, “The poorest Americans today live a better life than all but the richest persons a hundred years ago.”[3] In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation.[4] In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker.
Warning: It's long, but very interesting and worth the read.
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Just a snippet:
As scholar James Q. Wilson has stated, “The poorest Americans today live a better life than all but the richest persons a hundred years ago.”[3] In 2005, the typical household defined as poor by the government had a car and air conditioning. For entertainment, the household had two color televisions, cable or satellite TV, a DVD player, and a VCR. If there were children, especially boys, in the home, the family had a game system, such as an Xbox or a PlayStation.[4] In the kitchen, the household had a refrigerator, an oven and stove, and a microwave. Other household conveniences included a clothes washer, clothes dryer, ceiling fans, a cordless phone, and a coffee maker.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:27 pm to Tigerfan56
He broke the rules.... That's what he did wrong
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:27 pm to DawgsLife
quote:But what does he do to bring the conference value? The sports programs bring in the value. He doesn't have to sell a damn thing because the product sales itself.
You DO know that he went to school and got his education before he got paid, right? Bad analogy on your part. He probably had to pay for his education...go to school for 4 years (I am guessing he has a doctorate) and is now making less than most NFL players. (Or at least less than the top players)
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