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re: Had an interesting conversation with a former SEC football player

Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:27 am to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:27 am to
I have a hard time accepting the idea of college athletes receiving anything as well.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:28 am to
For the 400th time, every school has a little extra here and there fall into players' pockets. Ole Miss took it to another level, used coaches, and was really arrogant about it. They rocked the boat and now they're paying the price.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:30 am to
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i know of a current NFL player from an sec school who in college would regularly have a box show up at his door on Sunday morning by 4am. Inside the box would be packing paper except at the bottom there would be two to five stacks depending on how things went the day before.
that sounds familiar.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:30 am to
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Since when has it ever been the responsibility of the school to take care of student's families?


When the students started making the school 10 million dollars a year.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 11:32 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64470 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:35 am to
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When the students started making the school 10 million dollars a year.


you act like this money the school makes is going into the pockets of individual people. the money made is reinvested into the school and athletic department. and even then, the majority of college athletic departments do not turn a profit. you start paying players, even fewer of them do, and most programs couldn't even afford to pay players.
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:40 am to
Serious question:

Why aren't these parents working? We hear the same sob story every time this kind of news breaks, but why is it that these parents never work? Is every D-1 athlete's parents incapable of holding down a job or paying for basic necessities ?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:41 am to
We already know Bama pays players, that's nothing new
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:42 am to
Who said that they didn't work?
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:42 am to
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When the students started making the school 10 million dollars a year.



Revenue =//= profit

Only about 20-25 major athletic programs turn a profit year in and year out and don't depend on government money to operate.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64470 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:42 am to
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Why aren't these parents working? We hear the same sob story every time this kind of news breaks, but why is it that these parents never work? Is every D-1 athlete's parents incapable of holding down a job or paying for basic necessities ?

some people are always looking for someone else to take care of them, whether it be the government or their children
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:44 am to
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Who said that they didn't work



Why does a grown adult need their child--who is in college--to send back thousands of dollar back home, which was the hypothetical spelled Out in the OP
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:45 am to
Yes, revenue is different from profit, that's why I said 10 million instead of 80 million.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15375 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:46 am to
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Since when has it ever been the responsibility of the school to take care of student's families?



Since a student/athlete complained that his mother couldn't pay her power bill. I mean sure, this student is paying tuition and cannot afford to find a place to live so he lives in the library but you cannot expect a the parent of a football player to pay her own power bill
Posted by Mr. Blutarski
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1756 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:47 am to
I know there was a new RV parked at his moms house on National Signing Day.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64470 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:47 am to
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Yes, revenue is different from profit, that's why I said 10 million instead of 80 million.

the vast majority of athletic departments do not turn a profit, and the football program is the only way they can afford to field any other sports. if you institute a system where you allow schools to pay player, even fewer of them are going to turn a profit, and there will be a domino effect of other sports and other football programs either disbanding or dropping down a division. you can't just look at the top 20 athletic departments, you have to look at the bigger picture. it's just not feasible.
This post was edited on 5/4/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:48 am to
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Yes, revenue is different from profit, that's why I said 10 million instead of 80 million.


So money should only go to players who play for teams that generate at least $10million for the school?

Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15375 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:48 am to
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When the students started making the school 10 million dollars a year.



That sounds like a really crappy deal. You play football and get nothing while the school makes millions. I think a lot of high school players should just refuse to play and go get jobs
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:50 am to
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some people are always looking for someone else to take care of them, whether it be the government or their children


It's also a great story to tell sympathetic media. Guys know damn well if you pull out the 'I'm just helping my mama' card that suddenly taking money goes from being cheating to noble rule bending. Athletes aren't nearly as dumb as many fans and media think they are and they use that to their advantage as well. I mean this is college sports and these players are wise to the game and they know damn well that they can play boosters and everyone else like a fiddle by giving a sob story. Who wouldn't be sympathetic?

Some are telling the truth about needing to help out and having no other way but I highly doubt it's near what is claimed or that they ONLY take $305 for Mom.

Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:52 am to
He did send it home to his mom, but I never said that the mom didn't work. Some of you are so out of touch with reality that it is amazing.
Posted by MoonrakerElite
Member since Mar 2016
518 posts
Posted on 5/4/16 at 11:55 am to
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you can't just look at the top 20 athletic departments, you have to look at the bigger picture. it's just not feasible.



This. The NCAA is a mess now, but at to core, it is there to regulate competition in intercollegiate athletics. They've been sued in antitrust before for overreaching their powers--OU's suit to make their own TV deal, for example.

But preventing some schools from paying players (the few that can afford to) while the vast majority of schools cannot, is well within the NCAA's power and its fundamental purpose.

Not to mention, with title 9, it is going to be impossible to pay only revenue generating athletes.
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