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re: Had an interesting conversation with a former SEC football player
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:47 pm to MontyFranklyn
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:47 pm to MontyFranklyn
I just want to make a general comment that the concept of amateurism as some kind of important sports principle is outdated.
If somebody wants to argue that the university itself shouldn't be paying salaried athletes, I can buy that argument, but there is no good reason why an athlete can't use his own name and likeness for marketing purposes. The only reason why they can't is to protect revenue streams for the schools, conferences, the NCAA, and tv networks.
If somebody wants to argue that the university itself shouldn't be paying salaried athletes, I can buy that argument, but there is no good reason why an athlete can't use his own name and likeness for marketing purposes. The only reason why they can't is to protect revenue streams for the schools, conferences, the NCAA, and tv networks.
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:48 pm to swinetime
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they ARE breaking the law because of a little something called tax evasion. Did your guy pay taxes on the 2500 doubt it, did Mom doubt that oo
Stiff penalties heading their way. Do you worry if they drive without a seatbelt?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:48 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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frick the guy that takes money to support his family instead of listening to the NCAA's rules
It's already been established that that whole story is a line of OM bullshite.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:49 pm to TheJones
Bottom line, EVERYBODY buys or pays for some players. Maybe to get them initially or help them out during their tenure. Yes, your school does too.
4 and 5 star guys let it known what the price is. If you don't bid, thats your business but you have zero chance of landing them. Not all get money or gifts but the top notch guys do. If you compete your school is doing it. I played at a D2 school for a year and I can tell you without a doubt some got money even at that level. I can also tell you not everybody gets money and I know that for a fact.
4 and 5 star guys let it known what the price is. If you don't bid, thats your business but you have zero chance of landing them. Not all get money or gifts but the top notch guys do. If you compete your school is doing it. I played at a D2 school for a year and I can tell you without a doubt some got money even at that level. I can also tell you not everybody gets money and I know that for a fact.
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Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:51 pm to Evolved Simian
quote:Where did Hugh Freeze and the network touch you?
It's already been established that that whole story is a line of OM bull shite.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:51 pm to Evolved Simian
Unless OM sent the money directly to the power company then I call bullshite on this particular instance. I wonder how many times a perfectly good and working car was "fixed" with money from OM.
Frick paying these players unless you make the football team a for profit venture, stop making the players go to school if they don't want to study and stop reducing entrance requirements for those that do want to actually go to classes and graduate.
Amateur doesn't mean diddly any longer so pull the curtains back fully and see what develops from that.
Frick paying these players unless you make the football team a for profit venture, stop making the players go to school if they don't want to study and stop reducing entrance requirements for those that do want to actually go to classes and graduate.
Amateur doesn't mean diddly any longer so pull the curtains back fully and see what develops from that.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:52 pm to MontyFranklyn
FYI, I laugh every time I see someone use the nickname Boss Hog. I don't know why. I think I picture the old man from DOH trying to play football.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 12:57 pm to MontyFranklyn
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Where did Hugh Freeze and the network touch you?
As far as I know, Freeze hasn't been implicated here.
But I'm not going to buy into the shite because of an invented sob story.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:02 pm to Evolved Simian
Really? Established by who? People speculating on a message board don't count
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:02 pm to Crowknowsbest
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If somebody wants to argue that the university itself shouldn't be paying salaried athletes, I can buy that argument, but there is no good reason why an athlete can't use his own name and likeness for marketing purposes.
I agree with this 100%.
I doubt we will see this happen though, because people will start saying "What about the needs of the players who are not offered those opportunities." We have become a society that thinks everybody has to be equal in every way....doesn't matter how much talent they have, how smart they are or how hard they work....they should have everything that everybody else has.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:04 pm to MontyFranklyn
A lot of illegal aliens send money back to Mexico too. Does that make it alright?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:05 pm to swinetime
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it doesn't matter what they do with money they are not supposed to be receiving. The way you tell it, it would be ok for a heroin dealer to sell his stuff on the streets but it's ok because he took care of mom.
they ARE breaking the law because of a little something called tax evasion. Did your guy pay taxes on the 2500 doubt it, did Mom doubt that oo
Guess we better start using our tax dollars to prosecute all waiters and anyone else who gets cash tips. Guarantee you they're not reporting that income.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:06 pm to Crowknowsbest
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, I can buy that argument, but there is no good reason why an athlete can't use his own name and likeness for marketing purposes.
Youre absolutely right. There is no law that Jacob Eason cannot go out and sign autographs for money or appear in commercials or accept cash from people. There is no law. He just can't play football at UGA and do it.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:06 pm to DawgsLife
Well, I think one argument would be that they would sell their likeness but it would really be paying for them to go to a booster's school. Its definitely a pandora's box. I wish that all of the schools in the NCAA would just get together, pool some money, and give them a little more than they do now. I know its a flawed thought but I don't really know the best answer.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:09 pm to rebsfan10
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Guess we better start using our tax dollars to prosecute all waiters and anyone else who gets cash tips. Guarantee you they're not reporting that income.
I'm trying to grasp the essence of your argument, here. Are you saying that since there is graft and corruption, then all of it should be allowed?
Because we have a lot of crooked politicians that would be glad to hear that. I'm sure Bernie madoff would be happy, too.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:10 pm to StopRobot
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Youre absolutely right. There is no law that Jacob Eason cannot go out and sign autographs for money or appear in commercials or accept cash from people. There is no law. He just can't play football at UGA and do it.
What other feasible option does he have to continue pursuing a career in football while getting a paycheck?
Colleges have the market on 18-22 years old football monopolized. There is no other avenue to choose.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:12 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Colleges have the market on 18-22 years old football monopolized.
Because nobody is interested in paying of it. And the professional leagues aren't that interested either.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:12 pm to StopRobot
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Youre absolutely right. There is no law that Jacob Eason cannot go out and sign autographs for money or appear in commercials or accept cash from people. There is no law. He just can't play football at UGA and do it.
I think his point was...it SHOULD be ok for them to cash in on their likeness and play. IF EA comes out with a computer football game with Nick Chubb's number and name as a player, shouldn't he be compensated for it? I mean, I have no problem with a school making a profit off of Chubb. Chubb is getting something in return. An education. But why should a game maker make money off his name and likeness if he can't?
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:13 pm to GnashRebel
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Because nobody is interested in paying of it. And the professional leagues aren't that interested either.
Why would the professional leagues pay for it when they have a free farm league already grandfathered in?
You're wrong that nobody is interested in paying for it. If that were true, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Posted on 5/4/16 at 1:14 pm to 14&Counting
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they are precluded from realizing their market value immediately by the system in place
This is true for everyone who is not working in general labor, or fast food. I had to finish college, and put 10 years in to the industry before I finally got some breaks. And I don't believe ANY 18 year old kid should be different.
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